I never had until about 3 weeks when it happened to me at a Kum & Go in WDM. I guess it did shut off right as I was about to grab it but a decent amount overflowed.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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Here's a few data points from my situation: (I'm in the 6-10 yr camp).
I love EVs and think they're amazing to drive, everything from tesla's, to kia's, to porsche's.
But I own an older house with a detached garage. I'd have to rip up part of my back yard to complete the home charger install, and 3 electricians quoted me anything from $8.5k-$10k! So for those of you who have attached garages and newer houses, it'll be MUCH easier to pull the trigger on an EV.
I only drive 8k miles per year, so that's roughly $1500/yr on gas. So I'd need to own an EV 7 years before I "save" any money not going to a gas station.
When I've rented EVs in the past, the charging horror stories are true - its hard to find chargers sometimes, which brings on range anxiety. and then you end up paying to use some other charger, after you've downloaded yet another charging app to your phone.
My friends in California have Teslas and they're perfect for out there. Gas is expensive, most have long commutes, you spend a ton of time in traffic, and tesla charging stations are EVERYWHERE. It's a different world right now in CA as it relates to EVs.
And lastly, like all cool cars in demand post-covid - they're impossible to find! Want Rivian? Get in line. Ford Mach - E/Mavericks? Good luck. And strangely, other than the Model X, no one has a 3 row SUV. So if you have kids, or carpool kids around to soccer games etc, that's hard to do in Model Y or an Ioniq 5.
So even though I'd be happy owning an EV, my next car is going to have a turbo V-6 with a great sounding exhaust lol.
I love EVs and think they're amazing to drive, everything from tesla's, to kia's, to porsche's.
But I own an older house with a detached garage. I'd have to rip up part of my back yard to complete the home charger install, and 3 electricians quoted me anything from $8.5k-$10k! So for those of you who have attached garages and newer houses, it'll be MUCH easier to pull the trigger on an EV.
I only drive 8k miles per year, so that's roughly $1500/yr on gas. So I'd need to own an EV 7 years before I "save" any money not going to a gas station.
When I've rented EVs in the past, the charging horror stories are true - its hard to find chargers sometimes, which brings on range anxiety. and then you end up paying to use some other charger, after you've downloaded yet another charging app to your phone.
My friends in California have Teslas and they're perfect for out there. Gas is expensive, most have long commutes, you spend a ton of time in traffic, and tesla charging stations are EVERYWHERE. It's a different world right now in CA as it relates to EVs.
And lastly, like all cool cars in demand post-covid - they're impossible to find! Want Rivian? Get in line. Ford Mach - E/Mavericks? Good luck. And strangely, other than the Model X, no one has a 3 row SUV. So if you have kids, or carpool kids around to soccer games etc, that's hard to do in Model Y or an Ioniq 5.
So even though I'd be happy owning an EV, my next car is going to have a turbo V-6 with a great sounding exhaust lol.
This happened to me about 15 years ago. Ran in to use the restroom, and came out to pleasant surprise. Probably dumped a few gallons on the ground. Think it was a Caseys in Johnston.
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I think it has a LOT to do with trying to drive volume. I think they are getting their production issues figured out, and if they can make more cars, they want to sell more cars. To do that, Econ 101 -- lower P to increase Qd.
I was told by a former nuke sub sailor that to refuel them they have to cut a hole in the hull, lift the old rod assembly out with a crane, drop a new rod assembly in, and weld the hole shut. Then they go back hundreds of feet underwater.
Lots of confidence in navy welders...
Jim Howe (Ames just north of Red Lobster) was an underwater welder in the Military.
1000 miles ÷ 70mph = 14 hours. When do you drive 14 hours without at least one break of 30 minutes?
Remind me never to road trip with you.
This is kind of the strange thing with range anxiety. Its easy for people to think about the relatively rare long trip and have a gut worry about how you manage that with an EV. But the usefulness of an EV for everyday, more mundane travel is easily overlooked. It's an inherently emotional and irrational reaction to a new way of doing things.
Yeah even as someone who pulls toys with a trailer I 100% see that.
If the range for towing was 300 some miles for me, and I could charge up at what a fuel station looks like, I would be VERY serious about getting one. For a "toy guy" it would be tough to back into most charger locations and plug in. That's really my only negative thing.
I like your post so not criticizing. Living in land of $4-$7 gas where EVs have understandably become common I'm seeing a lot of people doing interesting things. If someone lives in a decent climate it's probably easier, I don't know how a lot of these would work in ice/snow or constant rain.
- People with garages obviously I can't see inside but the PHEV people don't even need to install a level 2. If they can charge an iphone in the house they can charge a PHEV.
- My neighbor has free charging at work and doesn't really ever need to charge anywhere else. They have an easy level 1 like every outlet is but they don't even use it.
- I see a lot of people with a charger on side of the house rather than a garage. Could work for some split garage people. You could still park in the garage a lot of the time.
- I see people who have street parking build what looks like a tiny mailbox in front of their house. I assume there's a code so they aren't just charging any random person's car.
- I see other people with street parking just have a really long cord and stretch it across a lawn.
- I use my garage as a photo studio about half the time and when I do I just close the garage door on top of my charge cable and charge just outside my garage.
There's definitely some logistics to it, but a surprising amount of people have it ready to go or almost no issue setting up a level 2. I knew a guy whose washer/dryer was on the opposite side of a garage wall and it was totally free with tax credits to set his up because it was that simple just popping it out the other side of the wall. My parents house is like that if they ever want it, washer/dryer is exactly on other side of where they'd want to charge.
The overall feeling I get from everyone and myself (only a PHEV) is that it's MORE convenient to never or rarely have to go to a gas station.
I would hope pull-through charging spots become more common, particularly at rest stops.
Most of Tesla's Supercharger stations have at least one pull-up/head-in stall for vehicles that are pulling trailers or have a bike rack on them or whatever.
If you want to go to KC or Minny from Ames, is the Albert Lea, MN or Bethany, MO supercharger drive thru?
Surprisingly, no. Bethany is an older station so not really too surprised on that one, but the Albert Lea one just opened a couple years ago. Really not sure why they didn't put a pull-up stall there.
Do not leave pump unattended.
That warning is on every gas pump. And you ignore the danger of leaving a pumping fuel pump unwatched if something goes wrong. Such stupidity.