Appreciate the honesty.
The funny thing is that I LOVE going to B1G Football games (at any of the schools). It's a GREAT CFB Saturday!
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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The funny thing is that I LOVE going to B1G Football games (at any of the schools). It's a GREAT CFB Saturday!Recruiting was a huge reason Texas went to the SEC. They were losing recruits to SEC schools especially D-linemen. SEC is so dominate in most sports it's tough to not end up there if you are Texas.
Not sure what happens in the next 15-20 years, and nobody does. But one thing I will say to the above is history is getting tested every year now across many walks of life. There have been massive changes throughout every aspect of life that makes some history borderline irrelevant. Interest in sports from those 30 and under being one of them that has never really been a problem in the last 100 years. Things keep advancing, moving and changing at such a rapid pace we will see what happens. There is no patience for anything anymore, and hardly anything seems to have much staying power at a high level. Yes there are exceptions to that, but many things have immense success and then fade away much quicker the more advancing we do as a society.
I've been mentioning it since OuT. I literally mentioned it earlier today.
Although I think it will be closer to 20 teams than 30. And it's years away yet (5 min, closer to 10).
I threw out 7 years because that is the next deal or near there for the top conferences. The point I was making is if/when their media partners come with similar numbers or possibly even less than now, because they have maxed their value. People start coming up with ideas to make more.
7 years is the next real chance for it to happen really now that several are signed on the the current deal. The second point of the 7 years is, a lot changes, especially in these deals over the course of 5-10 years. A decade from now we probably dont have a clue on what the world will be like, let alone media, sports, and how money is used. 7 years may be the beginning of the push, to happen at the following contract, it may be when it all blows up, or maybe not.
Sitting here saying it will never happen, or this and that will never happen to the B1G is ridiculous. When billions of dollars starts floating around those that are paying and those that are pushing those figures, start demanding certain things. And at some point those paying Billions are not going to want to pay for Indiana vs Illinois. They are going to want OSU vs Mich, and Mich vs Georgia, and Alabama vs USC, EVERY Week.
I am not saying it is a sure thing, but I would never be so naive to think it could never happen.
Just as I am not naive enough to think Michigan's research money would suddenly go down because they are not in the B1G. Last I checked, the B1G didnt give anyone any money for research. They like to add up all the numbers from each school and claim it is B1G research money. But all that is, is an total from the schools. The B1G has noting do do with getting or providing any money for Academic research. No matter how much they love to claim it. Just like Stanfords academics would not suffer for being in the B12, that is ridiculous. If that was the case every school would be pushing to get into the Ivy league or something. And the B1G would be begging Stanford to come in, because it would give them all more academics...
And a year ago it was said the Pac was the most stable simply because of geography. And boom now they are the least stable by far.
All it takes is 1 or 2 schools to talk behind closed doors to other conferences or Media people to destabilize even the most stable.
You dont think if a media partner comes to OSU and Michigan and tells them if they do something they can pay them double the $$ that they will say "naw we good, we make enough". Really? You say they dont do their negotiations for themselves...but then how does any of this happen. Do you think the B1G negotiated with the PAC to get USCLA? NO! At some point someone stepped out and represented themselves to get more money. You dont think they had talks with or about the money they would gain in the new Media deal if they made the Move? You really think because the B1G negotiates the media deal that none of these schools talk to contacts to look at potentials? If that were the case there would never be any realignment in any conference.
I agree with most of this except for one part. Michigan vs Georgia every week or similar games in the event of this super league isn’t going to be the draw. Those games are valuable now because they are the top of their respective conferences becuase they rack up the wins. Michigan in a super league is going to get crushed. After a few years of that all of a sudden Michigan is Nebraska and no one cares. A super league will destroy ratings not increase them. Especially when so many won’t be watching since their alma mater isn’t remotely involved.
You say michigan won't. What happens if OSU, Penn state, USC and Nebraska decide to take off to a super conference. Two of them have already left conferences. OSU "joked" about it and Penn state was independent for a long time.
Thats already been solved. They cant travel to 3/4 of the states now, including Iowa. But just like ISU, the AD doesnt take $$ from the state, at least not for travel. So the State cant dictate where they go.
If they were using state funds then yes, but they already would not be able to go to many places they already do, with their current laws.
Don't disagree at all with this. But that won't stop the media companies to try. The pursuit of money has ruined college athletics for the last decade plus. And it'll continue to ruin college athletics going forward. What's best for the sport and fans is secondary.
That completely ignores the realities of the transfer and NIL landscape. It’s going to be just like the NFL. For example the Utah QB would probably be worth a couple mill to one of the super league teams and there’s nothing to stop them from doing it. Boom. Right back in contention.
They agreed on new car sales with GM a year after GM made the announcement for 2035. Direct any feels toward Detroit.
Except these people dont look that far ahead. The look at if they can put the top teams in a league for 5 or 10 years it will be worth $$$$. They will worry about how some of them are no longer top teams after a decade and decide what to do. And most of these calibur teams even losing for several years will still be worth more than say the bottom 3/4 of the current B1G.
You have to think as more and more comes to paying players etc these places will decide they have to do whatever to make more $$.
And most of the overall historical top value programs have went through times they were down, they still are a top value program. So taking a few years where they are not in the top is not going to kill their value.
Tell OSU they cant beat the Alabamas and Georgias every week, that they cant compete in such a conference. Tell the Michigans that they will be the bottom in said conference. See how they react, I bet it is not to cower and say you are right. Such a challenge might just push them towards doing it. These are all Big ego teams.
And besides like someone said the NFL has teams up and down, has the best and most even talent etc. And we see the top teams rotate every few years, and then fall back. And yet it is worth $Billions.
And keep the schedule friendly with 3 cupcakes to fill the win column....cash checks....
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
(Not mentioned in the thread with all the foul balls FS has been trying to fend off with his head in the sand).
I think the point is that it is just as likely, if not more so with all the money making opportunities, that there will be a paradigm shift that disrupts the apple cart of those also in the B1G. Not targeting MSU specifically. You’re all over the board hanging on to a very narrow through-line.
A break away super league will end up as popular as the XFL and G League in the long run. Most fans are going to watch where most of their schools are playing.
I dont disagree with this. I think it would be terrible for CFB and College sports in general. But I also believe when it comes to the kinds of money being thrown out there now, all bets are off. These people dont care about anything that makes CFB great, all they care about is how to capitalize on its popularity to the maximum degree.
If they try to do this it could fail just as easily as it could succeed, but that doesnt mean when someone starts throwing out hundreds of Millions of dollars they wont try it, believing it will be a huge success.
The B1G took Maryland and Rutgers for god sake. There was only one reason to take those two, and it sure wasnt they would bring success and prestige to the B1G. It was simply money from the Big Ten Net cable deal. One could say those along with Nebraska have been complete failures, but the money keeps rolling.