Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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This is his answer?!? An option with even WORSE distribution than Amazon Prime???
Yeah, that conference is toast.
But Amazon and Apple have billions sitting around, I’m sure they’ll just bid High just because.
My source on the equal payments per school is a dude with reading comprehension issues named 2speedy1
They posted the following on Cyclonefanatic on February 21, 2023 at 12:09am. No link, just go to the prior thread page.The CFP Board of Managers agreed on a new revenue distribution model that will provide payouts that are expected to be more even per Power Five school in 2024 and 2025. The distribution model currently in place provides nearly equal payouts to each Power 5 conference, which then distributes that money to its members. That meant payout distribution was uneven for leagues with 16 teams (Big Ten) compared to those with 10 (Big 12). Yes, a program like Alabama was being paid less than, say, Iowa State. That will not be the case in 2024 and 2025 with the new model.
Let me translate:
- Bolded in Black. Currently each conference gets the same money. If the Big12 got $79M, then the Big10, SEC, ACC and Pac12 also got $79M.
- Bolded in Red. Those 2 sentences mean conferences will receive a CFB Playoff distribution based on the number of teams in the conference. So the Big12 with receive 12 x $X, the Big10 & SEC will receive 16 x $X, the ACC 14 x $X & the Pac12 ?.
Apple is notorious for getting their way in negotiations.. I'd rather be a partner with Amazon than Apple for this reason
The amount of effort I had to put into watching Prime's Thursday night football was actually less than network or cable TV.
No, that is not what it means. You are reading WAY too much into that. It does say the it is expected to be "More Even" Does not in any way say they are going to split it evenly between all 71 schools.My source on the equal payments per school is a dude with reading comprehension issues named 2speedy1
The CFP Board of Managers agreed on a new revenue distribution model that will provide payouts that are expected to be more even per Power Five school in 2024 and 2025. The distribution model currently in place provides nearly equal payouts to each Power 5 conference, which then distributes that money to its members. That meant payout distribution was uneven for leagues with 16 teams (Big Ten) compared to those with 10 (Big 12). Yes, a program like Alabama was being paid less than, say, Iowa State. That will not be the case in 2024 and 2025 with the new model.
Let me translate:
- Bolded in Black. Currently each conference gets the same money. If the Big12 got $79M, then the Big10, SEC, ACC and Pac12 also got $79M.
- Bolded in Red. Those 2 sentences mean conferences will receive a CFB Playoff distribution based on the number of teams in the conference. So the Big12 with receive 12 x $X, the Big10 & SEC will receive 16 x $X, the ACC 14 x $X & the Pac12 ?.
Like many have said those with more members or those with MORE REPRESENTATION in the playoff will get more. In no way will they agree that if the PAC adds a bunch of G5s to get to 16, but only gets 1 team in the playoff, that they will get more just because they have 16 teams. Do you really think the SEC getting 4 teams in the playoff is going to say its Fair for the PAC10 with SMU, SDSU, Boise, Air Force, Memphis, Tulane, and 1 team in the playoff....gets the same per team/conference? Because its fair? Yeah dont think so.
Every conference would be running around adding all the G5s just to get numbers. In your scenario the B12 could add teams to get to 20, give the G5s half share and make out like a bandit. That is not how it is going to work.
You are taking something that says one thing and making it another.
To me, it's not really about the difficulty of accessing it, and more about the viewing habits of the public.
It's no secret that viewership for TNF was down overall last season after going exclusively to Amazon.
My initial hunch is that a viewership drop would be even bigger with Apple TV+ as it's probably not as widely used as Amazon.
Streaming may be the way of the future. But it ain't fully here yet.
Also, I didn't see this posted:
www.mercurynews.com
I'll respect the paywall. But my favorite takeaway from this is that the WSU President said that noise from Big 12 media is what prompted last week's "statement of unity" from the Pac-12.
So apparently they hear us, they're talking about us, and the buzz we're all generating online is having an impact. Keep trolling my friends.
Pac-12 media rights: Nobody “spiraling off into places of despair” as process nears resolution, WSU president says
Washington State president Kirk Schulz believes the conference must finalize a new media agreement by the middle of March: “The longer it goes, the more noise there will be.”
www.mercurynews.com
I'll respect the paywall. But my favorite takeaway from this is that the WSU President said that noise from Big 12 media is what prompted last week's "statement of unity" from the Pac-12.
So apparently they hear us, they're talking about us, and the buzz we're all generating online is having an impact. Keep trolling my friends.
If you look at recent earnings calls streaming might not be the way of the future or at least stand alone streaming services.
If they moved to Apple the viewership would be far lower than on prime. Alot of people simply don’t have/watch Apple TV. The die hard fans will show up no matter what platform but the casual fans probably won’t bother.
Same here but there are a couple of huge differences. If it’s the only NFL game it’s appointment viewing and people will find it. If it’s your college team, you’ll find it. For all other viewers it’s going to be about where the most games are aggregated and adjacent to games they are actively seeking out.
Fans of specific teams will mostly find it. I think they can kiss all casual viewership and a lot of moderate interest views good bye.
Also, I didn't see this posted:
Pac-12 media rights: Nobody “spiraling off into places of despair” as process nears resolution, WSU president says
Washington State president Kirk Schulz believes the conference must finalize a new media agreement by the middle of March: “The longer it goes, the more noise there will be.”
I'll respect the paywall. But my favorite takeaway from this is that the WSU President said that noise from Big 12 media is what prompted last week's "statement of unity" from the Pac-12.
So apparently they hear us, they're talking about us, and the buzz we're all generating online is having an impact. Keep trolling my friends.
The P12 needs the deal more than Apple, so that puts them in a weaker position during these negations. If Apple does not get a deal, they like they can walk away, they still have their NFL contract. If the P12 walks away, they are truly screwed.
Agreed. I'm not old, and I have never watched Apple TV+. I don't intend to get it any time soon, nor would I even know off the top of my head where to get it/what it costs etc. I don't think I'm in the minority on that...
I can't imagine the Pac-12 on Apple TV+ would reach enough people to justify a $250+ million deal minimum that would be required to hold that conference together. And from what I've read about Apple, they prefer buying the whole slate of games (see the MLS deal) vs. paying up for a single game of the week or something like that.
Yeah, I get it, streaming is the future, but I think that's a lot different for tv shows and movies than it is for sports. The best part about college football Saturday is being able to flip between games instantly on OTA. That's a lot of lost exposure being stuck solely on a streaming platform. I'm not firing that up unless ISU is playing on that service.
The only way I'd be looking at a streaming service for Tier 1, is if that money was so astronomical you wouldn't be concerned about how many people were actually able to see your games. The kind of deal the PAC is looking at, solely to try and stay on par with the Big 12, is a huge mistake, imo.
Exactly. I keep thinking about how many bars will put it on. That's a great way to get the casual viewer. And a PAC game on Apple+ won't be on in a single establishment this side of the Rockies.