TJ’s Weaknesses Exposed Tonight

Grill got fouled for sure but I could see why refs missed it with how clueless they were the rest of the game.

Touissant flopped but you could make the case for a charge. Holmes absolutely has to be smarter than that and not fall for his bs but he lured him into lowering his shoulder.
But how are any of those late game collapse issues with the coaching staff? It’s literally the flow of every tight college basketball. It’s not exactly like West Virginia drew up some great plays on offense. They didn’t make a field goal in the last three minutes. Just relied on getting calls and making free throws.
 
I'm all in on TJ but we do need to start asking some questions on why we are constantly on the wrong end of these one-posession road games.

We have 1 legitimate road win where I thought we controlled them the entire game. The TCU went exactly like the other 4 league losses only we got lucky and got bailed out by Gabe at the end.

So thats 5 out of 6 league road games where we essentially are blowing it at the end.

We have 3 more chances so we'll see if this trend continues.


Funny you prefaced this with "I'm all in on TJ".

Because you take that away.........these posts of yours are exactly what you shoveled in Prohm's first two seasons.

23 wins......not good enough
24 wins.......not good enough
10 conference wins........not good enough
12 conference wins......not good enough
Sweet 16.......not good enough
Conference tourney title......not good enough

Always something to watch or be concerned about.

I guess one the thing TJ does have going for him is "other coaches players".
Lucky for him, right? Or I'm sure you would be blaming any success he has on that......just like Prohm.
 
I didn't say a word until the Oklahoma State loss this year.

Grill and Holmes were clearly frustrated and throwing tantrums late in the game last night also but fans aren't allowed to?
So the argument is you are just making up for lost time.
 
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But how are any of those late game collapse issues with the coaching staff? It’s literally the flow of every tight college basketball. It’s not exactly like West Virginia drew up some great plays on offense. They didn’t make a field goal in the last three minutes. Just relied on getting calls and making free throws.
They made two shots in the final 11 minutes.
 
A player being frustrated in the moment and a fan acting petulant the next day are not the same thing.
You and your buddies are a real piece of work.

Most of you guys hated the TJ hire from the beginning and were throwing tantrums when we didn't have "a proper coaching search". Now when somebody who has been 100% behind him being the guy in charge since 2015 starts asking a simple question now I'm the bad guy.

I'm simply questioning why this same thing keeps happening over and over. You guys would rather blame it on "refs" or "coin flips" instead of offering some legitimate answers.
 
You mean like the Iowa and Missouri games? What's going to happen is I'll chalk it up to the other team being hot that night and move on.

That's not what I'm talking about here, I'm talking about the constant inability to close out a game we shoukd have won. This is 4 straight that we've lost and had numerous chances at the end. That's unprecedented.

I think you need to look up what unprecedented means. Lol
 
You and your buddies are a real piece of work.

Most of you guys hated the TJ hire from the beginning and were throwing tantrums when we didn't have "a proper coaching search". Now when somebody who has been 100% behind him being the guy in charge since 2015 starts asking a simple question now I'm the bad guy.
Nice try, but I never belonged to that crowd and I've got the receipts to prove it.
 
But how are any of those late game collapse issues with the coaching staff? It’s literally the flow of every tight college basketball. It’s not exactly like West Virginia drew up some great plays on offense. They didn’t make a field goal in the last three minutes. Just relied on getting calls and making free throws.
In fairness, if your team keeps throwing away games late by giving up too many fouls and free throws, at some point that becomes a coaching problem. It's not like that was an anomaly, we rank 300+ in fouls given up this season. Losing games down the stretch at the FT line is self-inflicted.
 
In fairness, if your team keeps throwing away games late by giving up too many fouls and free throws, at some point that becomes a coaching problem. It's not like that was an anomaly, we rank 300+ in fouls given up this season. Losing games down the stretch at the FT line is self-inflicted.
After Grill missed the layup with 11 seconds we are down by one. Are there other options beyond fouling at that point? This team forced a miss and a turnover in the last minute of regulation.
 
You and your buddies are a real piece of work.

Most of you guys hated the TJ hire from the beginning and were throwing tantrums when we didn't have "a proper coaching search". Now when somebody who has been 100% behind him being the guy in charge since 2015 starts asking a simple question now I'm the bad guy.

I'm simply questioning why this same thing keeps happening over and over. You guys would rather blame it on "refs" or "coin flips" instead of offering some legitimate answers.
This is a pretty limited offensive team. We basically have 2 guys who can dribble in traffic- Lipsey and Holmes. So when opposing teams elevate their on ball pressure and over play passing lanes, our offense can go stagnant if we settle for contested jump shots.

Grill needed to make that shot, he made that tougher than it needed to be. He's taller and a better jumper than Trousant. Come to a jump stop and make him foul you vs. making an off balance layup and counting on getting fouled.

But in the end, this game (and our other recent losses) comes down to teams exploiting our trapping/over-help defense and committing WAY TOO MANY fouls. Out foul problems are mainly self-inflicted. We need to go back to the fundamentals on D.
 
You and your buddies are a real piece of work.

Most of you guys hated the TJ hire from the beginning and were throwing tantrums when we didn't have "a proper coaching search". Now when somebody who has been 100% behind him being the guy in charge since 2015 starts asking a simple question now I'm the bad guy.

I'm simply questioning why this same thing keeps happening over and over. You guys would rather blame it on "refs" or "coin flips" instead of offering some legitimate answers.

Have an orange slice and a nap. It'll help.
 
I think too many ISU fans only watch ISU games and don't realize how often good teams struggle throughout the year and especially on the road. I've watched enough college bball to know end of game shots are more often than not terrible looks. I'm sure it's something TJ will continue to try and improve at though. Also we don't have a bunch of super great creators off the bounce either and we see Holmes and Lipsey struggle sometimes when pressure is ratched up and that usually happens in these situations.
 
After Grill missed the layup with 11 seconds we are down by one. Are there other options beyond fouling at that point? This team forced a miss and a turnover in the last minute of regulation.
What about the previous 10 minutes to that where WVU barely scored from the floor? Those points came from somewhere.
 
What about the previous 10 minutes to that where WVU barely scored from the floor? Those points came from somewhere.
They came from the foul line in which WVU was in the bonus since before the first TV timeout which is absolutely unprecedented.
 
This is a pretty limited offensive team. We basically have 2 guys who can dribble in traffic- Lipsey and Holmes. So when opposing teams elevate their on ball pressure and over play passing lanes, our offense can go stagnant if we settle for contested jump shots.

Grill needed to make that shot, he made that tougher than it needed to be. He's taller and a better jumper than Trousant. Come to a jump stop and make him foul you vs. making an off balance layup and counting on getting fouled.

But in the end, this game (and our other recent losses) comes down to teams exploiting our trapping/over-help defense and committing WAY TOO MANY fouls. Out foul problems are mainly self-inflicted. We need to go back to the fundamentals on D.
Thank you, finally someone with a logical answer instead of getting all bent out of shape that I'm questioning the coaches.
 
I watched it this morning. Worst game of basketball ive ever seen on both sides.

It’s such a joke you get this upset about a game you already know the result to. At least the people who were getting upset about it last night actually watched it in the moment. You knew what was coming and are acting this upset? Come on.

And if you think this is the worst game you have seen, did you skip the games where they didn’t break 50 or 40 points last year? Those were so much worse.
 

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