Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I do wonder how the UCF CBB coach feels about this. They are about to become the "night off" opponent that the conference hasn't had in a long time. And it isn't like the Big10 where you have 6 to 8 of those programs to play each other. UCF is going to get pounded night in and night out for the foreseeable future. Yes, that give opportunities to recruit better, but that's a long process to build a program.
What happens in College Station stays in College Station...
24 games starts to get into a long conference schedule. And to me, going away from a double round robin would be a massive mistake. I'd much prefer to stay with the double round robin and 12 teams rather than go to 13 or 14 teams and have to lose that.
No different than TCU in 2013 and they adjusted eventuality. It’s just gonna take time, money, and a commitment to winning.
Rising tide raises all boats type of situation
God, I so wish that were true. The unholy offspring from that cult seem to have spread all over the country.
I agree, but the odds of a 22 game conference schedule are about 0%
I don't remember the conference being such a behemoth back then though. Teams tended to have more ups and downs and the bottom of the league was there even if the members of that bottom tier weren't consistent.
I can only think of a Few reasons to add Gonzaga.
Just gotta start it in December and drop some of those out of conference games. I know one home and home series on ISU's schedule that I wouldn't mind a bit dropping.
Tend to agree. Keeps the topic warm, gives the bigger targets (UW, UO, M4) a little FOMO.
Unless... would Yormark set up a "parallel" basketball only league? Say the Big12 exists as today with 12 (maybe someday 16) football teams. But you create a basketball only nationwide league with 30ish teams.
Take the Big12 core, add the Big East, the Zags, maybe a couple others that make sense from the A-10, MoValley, MWC or something. You get up to 32 teams and you could play a significant conference only schedule, have a big conf tourney, etc. IDK if it makes financial sense or not, just thinking out loud.
The problem is, we would be promoting teams if we took them from anything but P6 level. Gonzaga is the rare situation where they are an outlier in their conference. The conferences are concerned with tournament expansion meaning they will lose AQ status for their champs. This means we would be helping other teams avoid that and be diluting each current members chances.
Play some games in China or Europe. Dip into Toronto and Mexico City.
NBA Lite.
The Big 12 already pissed away the opportunity to be the premier football conference. We're basically mid-major at this point in football.
Grab the premier basketball prize and grow that business
Suites in Hilton!!
Kenpom conference rank since 2013 (TCU & WVU joined)
2013 - 3rd
2014 - 1st
2015 - 1st
2016 - 1st
2017 - 1st (only 2004 ACC was ever better)
2018 - 1st
2019 - 1st
2020 - 2nd
2021 - 2nd
2022 - 1st
2023 - 1st
It’s always been this tough.
That's a good point. Although I think there would be more risk of missing the tourney for say, St Bonaventure in the Big12, rather than say, West Virginia. In the A-10, the Bonnies just need to be better than the A-10, whereas in the Big12 they have to be better than half the league. That's a tougher row to hoe for a small school.
Maybe you keep the conferences separate entities but do some kind of merger/partnership? Add 1 team to the BigEast and now you have two 12-team conferences and could do 2-3 cross-conference games per team every year... and have a pre-season tournament. Games in Toronto and Mexico City like KnappShack said. Anything that brings attention and cash. It's a metric ****ton of good content, for sure.
Not necessarily better than half, we dot 7/10 in last year I believe. So just not a bottom feeder
It’s not just UCF, if your BYU or Cinci you have to be dreading the change. Even a school like Houston that usually only has a couple losses will have to get used to having 8-10.
BYU and Cincinnati have a history of basketball success and support. They may be down a bit, but I don't see any reason to think they won't be a powerhouse again and probably quickly. UCF is essentially building from scratch when it comes to a power conference level team and support structure.
Houston is good, but they'd have Kansas record at best right now. Possibly worse. Even in Phi Slamma Jamma days when they were the most talented program by far they didn't have to face competition like recent Big 12.
Cinci had 8 years in a pretty stacked at the time Big East. The fan base probably has the best idea of what they are in for in basketball.
We add Gonzaga and they become exposed really quickly. Probably lose 8-10 games their first year, and it only goes down hill from there. Then we're stuck with a small, remote bottom feeder in the conference.