Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I think part of the problem with that is, becoming a fan many times cant be forced. People dont just move to an area and instantly become a fan of the local team. In the Pros maybe it sometimes is a bit more like that because it is about going to the games. But in college or Highschool etc sports teams there is usually a connection that makes you a fan.
You have family that goes there, you went there, you grew up as a fan because your family/parents were fans. You have friends that are fans or have been for a long time, that invite you to go/watch. It usually happens more organically. So many times people that move somewhere, are still a fan/follow their long time teams and struggle to become fans of the new local teams, until something happens to give the connection to the new local teams.
I have see many people say this, and I do think this is somewhat of the issue on the west coast, but there is also a large large alumni base and current student base, plus family members of those alumni to make up a large fan base for those schools. They just dont seem to care as much as some areas. I do think some places that have pro sports struggle more with college, I also think places that have many colleges struggle, but those places have large populations and alumni to make up for some of that.
I don't see any expansion unless its the entire corner 4 or UW and Oregon as individuals. UW and Oregon are waiting on the B1G who won't be expanding for another couple of years.
I think the Big 12 will be at 14 until 2025
JP basically said were staying as is for now. BIG will need to draw first blood, until then we stand pat.
One thing I find odd about this whole thing, having lived at the beach in L.A. for 15 years is, I was never affected by that thinking. Oh, it all seems logical. But, I had time to hang-glide, scuba dive, beach volleyball, partying, etc., etc. And never missed an Iowa State game. But, then again, our early morning games left us time to do all those fun things.
That’s kind of the difference, Iowa State sports is higher on your list than most people on the west coast. You’ll make time to watch it. It seems like other residents on the west coast wouldn’t.
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We currently go up about 2MM per year. Not sure about when the playoffs hit or when OuT leaves.
I’m typically at the beach from 8am until noon. I’ve watched more games than I should have on delay. Had to go radio silence until I had a chance to watch. I had chargers season tickets but the games kicked off at 1pm so it worked. It would have to be a really good Aztecs team to make me miss a beach day. To your point, I know more alums from Midwest and East coast schools that go out of their way to watch football, unfortunately they don’t care about SDSU.
ASU would be phenomenal, huge school with huge alumni base. Unfortunately they haven’t had a ton of recent success but if they ever have a top level team they’ll have a ton of support. Worried about two schools in Arizona and Utah but there may not be better options.
Still think that the PAC is the trigger function here, not the BIG...their media contract is going to force things if it requires a Grant of Rights. Does Oregon and Washington lock things in for 5-7 years at a rate even lower than the current contract? Do the non-Oregon/Washington teams agree to non-balanced revenue sharing to plus up the "big" teams? It will be pretty fascinating to see...
There is nothing for that point, because that is after our current contract ends so there is no contingencies for those.
That does seem odd.
But remember the Pac12 is at the low 30's per school in 2022 with USC & UCLA.
Also, if Pac12 is requiring a no termination clause, then if I am ESPN or Fox- I am pricing the deal based on Oregon & Washington being gone AND having to be replaced by a couple MWC teams. Can't have an 8 team conference.
Who knows, ESPN & Fox's preference might be the Pac12 breaking up. But they might figure if they can get the Pac12 cheap- it might make financial sense. After all these are $300-$500M annual contracts and both networks will want to be competitive bidding on the 12 team playoff. That will take around $2 BILLION of annual investment for an exclusive deal.
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It’s the dumbest argument available. I love kayak fishing, I do it every chance I get. I can easily fish from my kayak until the water freezes over. This usually gives me until mid November at the latest. So, I kayak fish every chance I get, unless the Cyclones are playing at home. If no one comes to your games, no one cares.
Watching the UCLA / Washington game.
Perhaps this is conspiracy theory but it sure appears the producers are going out of their way not to show the “crowd”. Can’t blame the surf tonight.
If fans cannot get up for two 4-0 teams, this is a Big 10 team?
I know the excuses that there are a million things to do in California, and that may be true, but surely there are more than 5,000 that want to see a college football game. Out of like 10 million people, they have to average only 5-10k actually in the stands, and most the time far less. Even if just to watch the cheer squad.
Tonight there must be 80% Washington fans.
Tonight there must be 80% Washington fans.
