If Koch Industries get behind the Shockers new collective. They will be a force in the portal
2022 Recruiting/Transfer Class
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If Koch Industries get behind the Shockers new collective. They will be a force in the portal
That was my favorite thing on this site. Abdel Nader new ms broke in their and so did the Niang news
Neither were very good. I also find it weird that conditt highlights from pro games and Olympics make him look like a different guy. At isu he was a guy who could not even run. Now he is flying all over the place.
Doubt we have any shot at Council IV. Wichita State just gave a guy who averaged 7 points a game an NIL deal and a car to pull his name out of the portal and come back. Council IV is way better...
I understand that we should just get used to this but I have a hard time wrapping my mind around this NIL ****. I get they make the university money and what not but damn, a scholarship alone and all the perks in the world was waaaaaaay more than most of us got and that’s to play a game. NIL is just promoting entitlement and disloyalty
Why is it hard to understand?
We spend 90+ million to play ”games”. Most others in high majors spend more. Playing a game is big business. A few hundred thousand going to the player is actually not that much. These $100+ million businesses, a business of just playing games, spending a couple million more to get better players… makes perfect sense.
The rest of us aren’t participating in or the most critical input of a billion dollar industry. And we likely didn’t select the school based on that activity.
The “issue” is that because players are the most important input, there is little natural ceiling. Look at how much the recruiting industry has grown. These players are not commodities. There’s a shortage of guys that are wanted. By May the Beverly’s of the world have multiple suitors. Even the most wealthy will eventually try to spend past their means to get the best talent.
There will eventually be a correction- rules and structure. KU and Bama don’t want Arkansas to be their peers just because they have more non-sports money.
We must borrow to keep up above the cut off line until that happens. I’m guessing there are some, presidents and networks, that view this transition period as a way to thin the herd.
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Does anyone think NIL will affect coach's salaries? Seems to me having better players makes every coach better. Wiser to spend extra money on players now. You paid the coach to attract players. I think money will attract them now. Obviously you don't want a dud coach. Just curious if this will change what coaches are deemed worth.
I don't see that being a place to cut costs. A good coach is more important than ever now, especially when it comes down to assembling a good recruiting staff.
Recruiting staff? The recruiting staffs are the collectives.
It’s not the first place to cut- but their salaries exploded in large part as a proxy for luring players without paying players.
Disagree on the last part. Assistants that were mostly recruiters are less valuable. Their job has been replaced by self-financed front office types that go shopping on the transfer portal.
Coaches always had an incentive to pay players- pass on some of their win- based pay to those that help them win.
$200k/year for a top starter? A coach would spend that himself on a couple players, as reaching a couple NCAA tournaments likely gets them 8 figure deals. Hell, they’d take out a loan if needed
Find some assistants self-financed that can buy a great roster, and they’ll pay back their inventors/benefactors once they get a big contract
I'm really hoping the bolded is a bit pessimistic. Everyone is adapting to the new style of recruiting in he NIL market, but I'm holding out hope that things plateau in a few years and the ridiculous bidding wars are just for the elite 3-5%, leaving the majority of teams on slightly more equal ground. I feel (hope) recruiting will come back down to earth where relationships still mean something for a vast majority of the players.
But I'm admittedly a glass-half-full kinda guy. I think Hunter's situation was a gut-punch for us Cyclone fans that is leaving us (rightfully so) with a complete sky-is-falling view about the entire NIL situation. The next 2-3 years are going to be very telling.
I wonder how this affects recruiting with freshman coming in. It’s so easy to get a transfer anymore are people going to be just looking for transfers or what?
It may plateau eventually, but past where we are at now.
Most programs spend $5-15 million in operating expenses on MBB, another couple million, at least, on players makes sense. although some of that could be shifting current expenses to players.
Read the SI interview with ND AD jack Swarbrick. It’s not an ISU thing, although we’re likely viewing it more negatively than some. Do you think Arkansas thinks it’s bad?
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I'm not sure if you thought I was arguing something contrary, but I would group Arkansas amongst the group who is perfectly fine with the current situation.
They’re one of about 30-40.
There’s really no reason for this to not continue, and at a larger degree
Bates visit went into today. Lasting the better part of 2 days. Bates camp keeps everything under wraps, so this is all we know as of now.
Hard to believe, but couldn’t make his mind up about the water.
