Difference is the THT's and Haliburton's went pro. That's one thing. This is different.
Had TJ being the OG on Hunter's recruiting I would be a little more concerned right about now.
Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation
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Difference is the THT's and Haliburton's went pro. That's one thing. This is different.
Had TJ being the OG on Hunter's recruiting I would be a little more concerned right about now.
You realize TJ came in with a 2-win team and brought in basically all transfers and freshmen to make the AP Poll Top 10 and then the Sweet 16? None of this NIL stuff makes that less possible in the future. Retention will suffer; opportunities will not.
Prohm’s fault was that his non-star players were not P5 basketball players and overall he wasn’t a good enough coach to supplement that.
To be fair, having a really good core of 4 year players has been rare at ISU for a long time.
If he’s going to make some serious cash I don’t blame him. I don’t like this system as it’s a free for all no rules me personally I’m not sure how much I’ll pay attention to college athletics now that it’s even way more unfair.
I think we will figure out pretty quickly that the schools who stay competitive are those who adapt. We will just have to slide into this new normal and figure out a way to develop a plan/scheme that fits varying personnel year to year.
Lots of NIL hate, strange hate.
Previously, the "market" was only made once, at initial recruiting. ISU's value to players is somewhere around 25-55th ranked program depending on year and the sport. The best teams get the best players in initial recruiting. We would "win" when we made a value investment which panned out.
Now, the market is more efficient, and can be made after each season. ISU's value to players is still similar. We will lose some players out of our program who now see they can join top programs and obtain top NIL$. We will also gain players who started at more modest programs, but will transfer in to ISU when ISU is a better program and can offer better NIL$.
This is better for players. Players shouldn't have to be stuck anywhere, and should be able to maximize their value if they want to. If they think their lifetime earnings, or next year's earnings (different things, and different players will optimize differently) can be maximized somewhere else, they should do it.
How many of you started a job after college, and then switched jobs two years later when a better offer came up? How many of you had a bad manager at your first job who made you feel guilty for leaving, or tried to play the one-way "loyalty" card?
what are you talking about? ISU will get the 25-55th best players available every year, just as has happened before, now it will just happen annually as opposed to once every 4 years.
ISU is what, the 50th best football school nationally, historically, and the 45th in basketball? The NIL isn't changing that. Our conference home (Big12 vs Big10) is the thing to worry about, not NIL.
How big do you think the top of the foodchain is today vs what it will be in the future? I would say its about 10 schools today and don't really see that shrinking.
A bunch of contrarian morons telling me this will be no diff than blue bloods always getting best players.
If that’s the case we’ll be fine if cyclone players never see a dime of NIL money.
It’s a defense mechanism against bad news.
Cool, so you'll stop posting your obsessively negative takes in the MBB forums?
Maybe the only good news to come out of this.
And like any market there will be corrections. You'll see guys chase deals to schools and sit on the bench. You will see boosters get disenchanted when their donations aren't met with a successful team. This totally stinks because there doesn't appear to be blame to assess other than the money. This isn't Wes Johnson where you can blame McDermott. This isn't someone transferring because their coach leaves. It's just the money, and that's why it stings. But we will just have to adapt and figure you can't keep 12 guys happy at the big schools.
It's the whole NIL concept that has fans on the ledge. Tyrese is replaceable. Really couldn't shoot for a lick other than the LSU game and was careless with the basketball A LOT. Think about how many lazy passes and turnovers he had. I think he had an attitude, too. Did it ever look like he was having fun out there? Like you said, pick up a decent guard to replace him. It's just really sad that the days of loyalty like Niang, Naz, and Morris who bled Cardinal and Gold are gone.
We are not fishing in the pond you think we are. Only the top three recruits in ISU history are in the ranking you're describing.
We wouldn’t have signed another pg that was inefficient and often ineffective on offense?
IB added a ton of value, everyone else was a largely defensive role player
