They screwed those 5 second calls. Both were around 3 seconds. You get five seconds to pick up the ball and then you get five seconds to inbound the ball. It wasn’t even close.
Weird call at the end of the game
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There is an app I believe. Before Jaz shot the free throws, "KSt calls a timeout." "Which they shouldn't have".
I’ll give them general benefit of the doubt for the inadvertent whistle since the ref was granting the timeout when the rules now say you can’t, and wouldn’t expect them to just give ISU the ball, but to not then still charge the timeout is asinine. Admit that the timeout should not have been granted, and take it away from KSU. But no, they let KSU keep the ball, and their final timeout for some time later, and let them huddle and game plan. Just another example of how horrible the game is officiated anymore
The Varsity app has the games live, but I have not gone back to see if they archive replays
I can accept the ref blowing the whistle early in the mistake, it happens. He pointed to the floor and said he called it then. When the first conference happened it should have been easy to say, hey he did t signal right away. The first ref can say, hey I didn’t see and messed up. So it’s an inadvertent whistle KSU ball. But instead they basically give Kstate a timeout by spending minutes talking about something that should take 10-15 seconds tops. No reason for it to be stretched out that long.
One of them, in particular. There’s probably an innocent explanation for this, but there’s also Occam’s razor.
Varsity network app is great for archiving, almost right away and includes all post game. I’ve been in habit of listening to postgame taking my dog for a walk.
Between that, KSU shooting 8 or 10 straight fts, and the 2 second five second call it was a miracle ISU won and the officials were more of a challenge than KSU was.
OK, what if you don't have iPhone or want to listen on your computer? Varsity app says it is for iPhone or iPad only.
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The 5 second call rule is on page 76. Mentions the 5 seconds start when the ball in “is at the disposal” of the inbounding player. This does not excuse calling a turnover in less than 5 seconds multiple times in a row. The ball just has to be released within 5 seconds, not touched or possessed inbounds. The ref can start the 5 seconds prior to the player touching the ball if they think there is stalling.
I am sure TJ is emphasizing inbounds situations with the team this week. Refs made some rough calls and decisions. Probably one of the worst final minutes I have seen. We still need to be able to inbound the ball more effectively.
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Select download pdf, click download.
The 5 second call rule is on page 76. Mentions the 5 seconds start when the ball in “is at the disposal” of the inbounding player. This does not excuse calling a turnover in less than 5 seconds multiple times in a row. The ball just has to be released within 5 seconds, not touched or possessed inbounds. The ref can start the 5 seconds prior to the player touching the ball if they think there is stalling.
I am sure TJ is emphasizing inbounds situations with the team this week. Refs made some rough calls and decisions. Probably one of the worst final minutes I have seen. We still need to be able to inbound the ball more effectively.
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THANK YOU! That works and I am listening now.
But the play was dead either way, so the inadvertent whistle had no effect on the play whatsoever. It was a dead ball the moment the player hit out of bounce. He cannot call a timeout while in the air, so it should have been ISU basketball, then you ask KSU if they want to use their last timeout or not.
Talk to each other, watch the video and go from there. It's almost like the refs were trying to come up with a way for KSU to retain the basketball instead of making the correct call and giving it to ISU. So they come up with inadvertent whistle garbage to get a free pass from them making the wrong call and rewarding a TO to KSU, when they are not allowed to call a timeout going out of bounce. Then top it off, not charge KSU with a timeout, after their player called one.
To your point on stalling, weren’t both of these calls made after KSU had made FTs? So the game clock wasn’t running whatsoever. I don’t by that excuse whatsoever. Plus he blew his whistle before 5 seconds so it’s all moot.
But yes, we do need to work on our inbounds plays and breaking the press in pressure situations.