Throwing downfield needs more that Dekkers arm
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Going into this year Kempt had the highest career completion percentage, consecutive passes without INT, maybe more. When Purdy took over Kempt had the highest completion percentage season and passing efficiency (2017)
Not that a QB having volume based career records means much
The constant quoting of school records is such a ridiculous point to make in talking about Dekkers potential. Purdy breaking ISU records is great, but - let’s be honest - there were not a lot of prior QBs to brag about that played as many games as Purdy did. And it came during the best stretch of ISU football that we ever had.
It’s like Jorbo in the Iowa basketball record books.
Are the records in and of themselves a great accomplishment? Certainly.
But the limitations in Purdys game are readily apparent and Dekkers has tools that Purdy simply doesn’t. People within the program will tell you this.
does that mean Dekkers will be better? Of course not. But we should all hope so. The program will be better for it if he is.
It’s like Jorbo in the Iowa basketball record books.
Are the records in and of themselves a great accomplishment? Certainly.
But the limitations in Purdys game are readily apparent and Dekkers has tools that Purdy simply doesn’t. People within the program will tell you this.
does that mean Dekkers will be better? Of course not. But we should all hope so. The program will be better for it if he is.
Production wise Brock is the best QB ISU has ever had. If ISU wants to make the next step up he can't be the best QB ISU has ever had. This is no knock on Brock.
sometimes, there were plenty of drops as well…brock didn’t get a ton of help on some balls either
Like everything else in life, it’s more complicated
He is all of the things you mentioned above. But also his deep ball was lacking and he had his flaws.
Both can be true. We can be honest about what we see. I do think people are too hard on him, but my goodness people get touchy around here when you even bring up a flaw.
I’m pretty sure not having a beast like Hakeem had a little something to do with his stats waning. Not to mention Tarique being hurt the last two years.
His playmaking waned more than his stats.
You’re right though- he wasn’t really a make guys better type. He was more of a game manager type the last couple years.
Whoa! Nice pass and catch by Wallace to Danielson! But look at the horsetackle by Bob Sanders on #82!! Guess that was a little too early before those started being called?
Here's more of a highlight clip of that 2002 ISU vs. Iowa game (without all the Iowa highlights), with plenty of Senaca plays. It was done as a tribute to Pete Taylor. That was Pete's last Iowa game as he passed 3-5-2003.
Each game usually never boils down to strictly QB play, but just for fun, what is Iowa State's record this past season with Dekkers as the QB1?
6-7? 7-6?
He may only win 4 or 5 games next year, but it likely won't be because he's way worse than Purdy. The offense is going to look quite different next year.
I like Dekkers and I think think he's next in line, but do we really know he's next? We've heard about his arm strength and he was the one who subbed in for Brock this year (and last), so...
But I'd like to know what the staff thinks of Aidan Bouman. He was pretty accomplished in HS iirc., and has an even bigger frame. Then Rocco B. will soon be vying for playing time (especially after his freshman year) perhaps?
I'd say if Hunter is the guy next year, that alone might say quite a lot. All three QB prospects look promising to me. Pretty nice position to be in.
There are insiders in here who disagree with me, but have it on very good account that there was staff in the program that wanted to Dekkers to play more than he did this year. Brock was obviously the guy at the end of the day but - at minimum- Dekkers was viewed as a more than capable back-up and definitely next in line. Could someone step up and beat him out? I suppose anything is possible. But he has as good of a natural skill set as any QB we’ve had.
I don't have any inside info.. but this seems clear based on the iowa game. If Brock was head and shoulders above Dekkers, I don't think you run the backup out that soon. I understand Brock was the #1 guy. No question about that. But I also think it is pretty clear that they really like Dekkers and he was starting to push Purdy a bit.
I am curious (don't think we will ever know) if Dekkers is part of the reason Purdy is not staying for a 5th season. He seemed to really like college football, and hard to imagine his draft potential getting worse by coming back. I am not saying this is the case, but do wonder if he felt like he may be sharing time if he came back... I am sure we will never know.
Definitely an interesting question. I don’t claim to be an “insider”, but the person from whom I heard this is very closely connected and has absolutely zero reason to share bad info with me. All I heard is that there were members of the staff - obviously not all and not the ultimate decision maker, but staff nonetheless - that preferred Dekkers over Purdy. States differently, Purdy was not unanimously and resoundingly the number one guy all this year. I don’t share that to debate or to stir controversy. It’s just what I heard from well placed source snd people can take it or leave it for what it’s worth.
I would seriously doubt that...and with Brock's career success/records, and his disposition, and most of his teammates he came in with, graduating like himself, I'm sure he felt it was time to move on. What's left to prove? Do I think he'll get drafted? No. But I also think he believes he can make someone's roster eventually as a free agent. Hope he does. Not a tall big guy obviously.
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I would seriously doubt that...and with Brock's career success/records, and his disposition, and most of his teammates he came in with, graduating like himself, I'm sure he felt it was time to move on. What's left to prove? Do I think he'll get drafted? No. But I also think he believes he can make someone's roster eventually as a free agent. Hope he does. Not a tall big guy obviously.
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ya... probably should not have speculated. not claiming this is the case.
But, regardless of whether it went into his decision, I do think Dekkers pushes him more this year if he did come back. I still think Purdy is the starter all season if he is back. But even in this bowl game, people speculated whether or not we would see Dekkers on a few drives.
Again, I don't think they would be splitting time evenly, just that they may have packages and put him out there on a few drives / game...
Obviously, we will never know.
I would seriously doubt that...and with Brock's career success/records, and his disposition, and most of his teammates he came in with, graduating like himself, I'm sure he felt it was time to move on. What's left to prove? Do I think he'll get drafted? No. But I also think he believes he can make someone's roster eventually as a free agent. Hope he does. Not a tall big guy obviously.
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ya... probably should not have speculated. not claiming this is the case.
But, regardless of whether it went into his decision, I do think Dekkers pushes him more this year if he did come back. I still think Purdy is the starter all season if he is back. But even in this bowl game, people speculated whether or not we would see Dekkers on a few drives.
Again, I don't think they would be splitting time evenly, just that they may have packages and put him out there on a few drives / game...
Obviously, we will never know.
Honestly I think the O line was the bigger issue we didn't see more downfield throws.
1) not enough time in the pocket Purdy was safe to look downfield.
2) WR need some time to get open downfield.
I think next year will have improved line play i hope. which should open up more plays downfield. Purdy had a good enough arm for deep balls.
1) not enough time in the pocket Purdy was safe to look downfield.
2) WR need some time to get open downfield.
I think next year will have improved line play i hope. which should open up more plays downfield. Purdy had a good enough arm for deep balls.
The OL has to significantly improve, for Dekker's and Brock to be successful. Within the first two games this year we will know if this is a 7 or 10 win season