ISU winning a NY6 bowl game has broke legend to an even dumber state. First the NY6 bowl game for isu and now ISU beating out Iowa for a life long fan has him tailspinning.
Iowa Football Recruiting
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You aren't very good at math. The Big10 West has the same % of teams in the final AP top 25 poll as the Big12 does. If you compare the entire conference the Big10 is far ahead of the Big12 in % of teams that are AP top 25 quality teams.
Can you seriously say that you aren't concerned at all? I actually just had this conversation with a couple Iowa friends/season ticket holders and they can't stress enough how big of a blow losing Doyle was. They fully expect development to start to slide as early as this year. They are also really concerned with the RB and WR positions.
Whoa, there is a level 5 Trigger Alert
First of all knucklehead, you YOU ******* YOU are the hok troll that asked about ISU's recent performance when I brought up Iowa's performance. YOU called out me to talk about ISUs performance. Believe me, i was shocked when you chose ISU as the measuring stick and when I called that out, now you adjust it.
And if you will/can read back through my posts you will see I said that Iowa's performance has been flat line, which your data clearly points out. In fact, here is my exact quote:
Do you understand what a trend line is? Iowa has been flat and I predict it will decline.
Thank you for getting the data to back up the flat line part. And yes, I am sure hok fan is happy with that performance and would be happy with that performance for another 10 years under KF.
I further pointed out that ISU has risen to the same level of performance as Iowa with lower ranked recruiting classes. My point being ISU is doing more with less. I further SUGGEST that a rise in ISU's effectiveness in recruiting, especially in-state and the PR disaster KF had last July are going to show up negatively in Iowa's recruiting going forward.
I have then gone on to SUGGEST that we are seeing Iowa in the early stages of a program that is fading. Happens to almost all of them sometimes, Happened to Iowa under Fry. To me it is clear circumstances are aligning for the end of KFs run. I wish we had the conversations around Fry's last few years to look at, I bet they are about the same as this discussion. I certainly don't expect you to believe and I think I clearly stated I hope none of hokdom believes it or does anything about it. Again, Don't expect you to agree with , understand or talk logically about it.
But hey, this is a hell of a lot better discussion than what we have been getting where "We are fine because that recruit was named Outstanding Young Member of the Year for Jr. Cyclone Club".
YOu need to read the post that started this. He said Iowa was a fading program, and he clearly changed what he was saying, because he knew it wasn't true.
One would think as much as @Legend Hawk keeps talking about the Jr. Cyclone Club that he was a lifetime member of it.
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I am concerned every year, I think it is a function of being an Iowa fan. The success Iowa has had since 2013 is pretty high level stuff. winning 70% of your games is no easy task and that is why Iowa sits around 9, 10 or 11 among P5 schools in winning % since that time.
Trying to compare a division with an entire conference is trying to compare apples to oranges. Anyone with a brain cell knows that. But if you want to be the idiot you are, then drop the three bottom teams of the big 12 and our % of ranked teams blows the big10 west out of the water. Thanks for pointing this out
I know a family of Iowa fans that have Iowa State season tickets instead for this very reason
You have made the claim that Iowa is a fading program a couple times this month. Don't act like your new course of "flat line" is anything other than backtracking on your "fading line" that is clearly false.
Exactly. It’s amazing that some ignorant hawk fans don’t appear to understand the appeal and concept of the Jr Cyclone Club. It’s a marketing plan that appeals to families with young kids. It’s almost a no-brainer to get your kids involved in it if you want them to experience college sports. Continuing to try to tie it to being the deciding factor in choosing a school is an attempt to deny what CMC has been building at Iowa State.
The how should we compare them then? Should we compare the Big12 to the Big10? Of course not, you will cry saying that the Big10 East is good and the Big10 West is trash.
I posted long ago it was an ingenious way to get kids to become ISU fans. It works, and it certainly worked with Imming. I heard he grew up a Hawk fan as a young kid, but is a full blown Cyclone fanatic now, thanks to the Jr. Cyclone Club.
And a NY6 win and a top 10 final ranking. We've been beaten over the head by you guys with KF's top 10 finishes and "January bowls". There were quite a few I remember saying "When ISU plays in an actual meaningful bowl game or does anything nationally relevant, let me know". Well, we just did. Look, ISU fans don't need validation from iowa fans for this past season, but efforts to diminish it seem petty on your end.
I mean I get it, wracking up wins against sh!tty teams might be a bigger Iowa tradition than the wave.
You are pathetic. Anyone with half a brain (which you prove over and over is too much to ask of you) would realize that the fact that Lazard's father played and was a captain at ISU in the 90s would be a much bigger factor than "being a Jr Cyclone member".
I believe Iowa's program is fading, stand by it 100%. I don't care if you agree with that or not.
There is data to prove, and you agree, that at best, Iowa has been flatline performance the last 8 years.
There might be data ( I don't put as much stock into recruiting rankings as hok fan does) that shows that ISU has outperformed Iowa considering recruiting ranking the last 3+ years.
Therefore I am comfortable saying that ISU's trendline is better than Iowa's (fading or not) and that gap will increase as ISU starts to perform better compared to Iowa in recruiting.
Please tell me how that argument does not align with this thread and how it is not supported by some facts, certainly better than Jr. Cyclone Propensity Ranking