Keep the Tom Herman rumors out of this thread please.
Annual Matt Campbell in demand - 2020 version
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Free houses, if you don’t mind lead poisoning, having to renovate the house, maybe throwing out an old meth lab, and street gangs walking around.
I think along your lines. I hope he builds a Ferentz-type career here in Ames. We would be fortunate. All of us that have any sense of perspective realize if he stays long-term, he's going to have up and down years and we'll ride the rollar coaster with him being very thankful for the historic gifts he's already given us.
I would not resent him for one second for leaving. There is a special place in most people's hearts for home, and if he leaves for the state of Ohio or the state of Michigan, I get that.
Still, I think he's just different enough from many coaches that maybe, just maybe, he'll stay here for another 10 to 15 years while his children are growing up and not uproot his family. Those things matter a lot. Those of us with young children and families and those of us who lived it, I think, understand the pull that finding the right place to raise your children has on the adults in the family unit. I am not interested in more enticing careers (in some ways) personally, because of the good life my children have enjoyed moving back to central Iowa. I hope Campbell and his family feel well-connected in central Iowa and his children are flourishing. That will probably mean a lot to him and be a big factor.
Enjoy the ride and the name-dropping of Campbell nationally everyone and have faith what will be was meant to be!
Well......let's be honest.
The Jets and Florida State are positions worth passing over.
Especially the Jets.
Depends on your coolness factor. My son-in-law frequently alerts us when there's a house for sale in their neighborhood. We're more like friends than family and have watched every Cyclone football game together this year.
All these writers talking about their DC jobs and mentioning Heacock really is “We’ve landed on the moon!” level ****. 95% of schools would dump their DC for Heacock in a second.
The article posted on page 2 calls Texas a lateral move from Iowa state. Ha!
I realized after the last go around that I can't control any of it so I don't even worry about it. There's only two people that matter when they make this decision as a family and because I don't know either of them, it really doesn't matter.
I realized after the last go around that I can't control any of it so I don't even worry about it. There's only two people that matter when they make this decision as a family and because I don't know either of them, it really doesn't matter.
I can't picture MC as a NFL coach. Not saying he wouldn't be successful but can you imagine MC reaction when players like Antonio Brown do their schtick with it's about me above the team act? Or Vice Versa the eye roll that Brown would give when Matt talks about the process.
Don't forget, when MC took the ISU job he had to convince Heacock to come to Ames because he was happy where he was. This is not someone to jump up the ladder blindly. I'm not worried about Heacock leaving.
MC has shown with his bumping the assistant's pay instead of his own last year that he's loyal to the assistants and i think heacock is the same way. How long have they been together?
Lots of great points on why he would stay....I just think we've seen the last 5-7 years, big programs "chasing" coaches (and firing quicky) usually end up with buyouts to pay and no real success movement. Sure, someone could double CMCs pay.....but is it doubled if he's canned in 4 years? And I'm guessing a lot of schools will be careful given budget issues with COVID
This sounds too simple, but CMS has built a culture and it is really on the cusp now (this year's team, returning guys, etc). The next two years could be huge for him and the fruits of his labor could strike!
This sounds too simple, but CMS has built a culture and it is really on the cusp now (this year's team, returning guys, etc). The next two years could be huge for him and the fruits of his labor could strike!
Let's not forget, there is quite a bit of reputational risk Campbell would assume by going to Michigan. If he fails like the last 3 guys, its going to set him back. Look at Rich Rod - he had a great gig at WV, left for Michigan, and it tanked his career.
He left a very good West Virginia job. Got fired at Michigan. Picked up the pieces and landed a below average Arizona job, got fired, was out of football for 2 years, was at Ole Miss for 1 year as OC and is back out of football.
Not saying that would ever happen to Campbell but if you look at the pros and cons of Michigan vs. ISU, it is not as easy of a decision as one would think. Stay at ISU for the next 10 years, earn $40 to $50 million (after more raises and extensions, which will surely come), and control all aspects of the program - basically become Kirk Ferentz. Or jump to Michigan where you are going to be second fiddle in your own division behind Ohio State, where expectations are sky high, and possibly get fired and tank your career. All to be coaching at a "blue blood" where you probably have a slightly higher ceiling to make the CFB than you do at Iowa State.
He left a very good West Virginia job. Got fired at Michigan. Picked up the pieces and landed a below average Arizona job, got fired, was out of football for 2 years, was at Ole Miss for 1 year as OC and is back out of football.
Not saying that would ever happen to Campbell but if you look at the pros and cons of Michigan vs. ISU, it is not as easy of a decision as one would think. Stay at ISU for the next 10 years, earn $40 to $50 million (after more raises and extensions, which will surely come), and control all aspects of the program - basically become Kirk Ferentz. Or jump to Michigan where you are going to be second fiddle in your own division behind Ohio State, where expectations are sky high, and possibly get fired and tank your career. All to be coaching at a "blue blood" where you probably have a slightly higher ceiling to make the CFB than you do at Iowa State.
CMC idolizes people like Bill Snyder, which gives me confidence he could be here a long time. However, it seems a lot of comments he's made center on the hopes to build something here. I normally wouldn't be afraid of any of those jobs, but should he win the Big 12 Championship this year, would he feel he has finished the job he set out to do?
I think he'll stay, but I have to admit his success combined with a possible opening at Michigan has me slightly more frightened than I've been in the past. I'm not going to let that ounce of fear take away how extremely happy I am with this team and our coach. Great team this year!
I think he'll stay, but I have to admit his success combined with a possible opening at Michigan has me slightly more frightened than I've been in the past. I'm not going to let that ounce of fear take away how extremely happy I am with this team and our coach. Great team this year!
What's wild....and sorry to bring this into this thread.....was we learned a lot about this stuff with Hoiberg...meaning, nothing is for sure or as it may seem. The fact he listened to U of Minn in like year 2 is nuts....we all would have thought this was the ideal place, we took a risk on him, etc.
But, I truly think CMC is different than most.
But, I truly think CMC is different than most.