Our receiver very clearly moved first. It wasn’t even really close. He could have been called three times before their guy moved.
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It was Scates on that. He had a rough game yesterday. He had 3 huge penalties. Illegal formation on the Kolar play, he was the one who covered Kolar negating the PI in the endzone. He jumped on Purdy's hard count, and he was off the line causing the illegal formation on the Kene run.
I watched those plays to check them all to make sure I was correct. The guy has talent, but he needs to mentally figure it out or I am guessing he will see nothing but the bench going forward.
If you watch the replay from TV he didn't secure the ball going to the ground. It was the correct call.
It was the right call, he didnt have possession of the ball when he was going out of bounds and debatable if he ever really did after he hit the ground. Dunno what angle they showed in JT but they had some angles on TV that were enough to rule it incomplete. Same thing with the overturned interception, it was very clear on the TV replay we did not catch it cleanly and it was trapped going to the ground.
The targeting call unfortunately was right too but I dont think the contact had intent.
There was a face mask call on OU offensive line(against Bailey). I haven't looked at replay yet, but I swear the lineman did the same thing on the play right before that---tackle out in space, as Bailey was going to turn the corner on him he reached up and grabbed the bottom bar of Bailey's face mask. Maybe he thought "the refs aren't going to call that today, so I'll keep doing it..."
This is the one that miffed me the most. I only saw 1 replay, and it looked like the WR (Scates, based on above) was in "no man's land" -- when a receiver can't commit to being on the line of off the line, so he kind of "hangs out in the middle" and usually hopes the official will just "act like" he's wherever he's supposed to be. (This usually means the WR isn't confident exactly what the formation is.)
According to a D3 college official I used to do high school games with, they (officials) are trained to let it go "if you can put a blade of grass between them." In other words, unless it's a trick play, if they are even "kind of" off the line, or "kind of" on the line, just mentally put them where they need to be and deem the formation legal. As long as there is no deception intended.
So, watch for that even in the NFL ... officials let it go all the time! Why they decided to make this play the one to enforce it by exact rulebook language, and not the intent of the rule (preventing deception) baffles me.
Kolar is lined up in the backfield, Allen and Soehner are on the LOS and both ineligible because they're covered up by receiver at the bottom of the formation. But Allen and Soehner both block and neither go downfield.
No idea where the penalty came from on this play, I think maybe they lost track of which of our tall TEs who were all lined up in a bunch went downfield.
It would be interesting to know if we have different personnel on STs since to Louisiana debacle.
The announcers even comment on the missed thrown punch by the OU player.
I saw the exact same thing. Play before the flag, they did the exact same thing but got a nice gain on the play with no flag.
Good catch, I bet you are right and they got Kolar and Soehner mixed up and missed the call.
Kolar is lined up in the backfield, Allen and Soehner are on the LOS and both ineligible because they're covered up by receiver at the bottom of the formation. But Allen and Soehner both block and neither go downfield.
No idea where the penalty came from on this play, I think maybe they lost track of which of our tall TEs who were all lined up in a bunch went downfield.
1. Interception I think was clean. Video looks sketchy but he possess the ball right before the contact with the ground. Frames are funky though. Should have stood regardless of call.
2. Was horrendous call. Wasn’t even close to targeting.
3. No idea
4. Absolutely should have been on the defense. The defender caused our guy to move while in the neutral zone.
I just went back and rewatched that offsides call when the NG hit our center and Scates jumped. Scates was looking over at the center and it looks like he moved after the NG went into the neutral zone. They might have moved at the same time, but Scates didn’t move first. Probably should have been called a penalty on OU. Luckily, that call didn’t affect the game as we went on to score a TD a couple plays later.
Nice thing about this year is we didn't go down by 3 TD's early and need a huge comeback. 11 was biggest deficit and that wasn't for long. Whole game felt like we were right in it, which was awesome
I think 14 was the most we were behind in that 2017 game. It was a quick 14-0 for OU , but we kept it in that 7-14 range until the second half.
You're right, it was 14-0, then 17-3, then 24-10 i think, before we closed the gap for good. Last night I think we were down 11 for 1 or 2 possessions, otherwise was a single score difference for whole game. But original point that this game had similarities to 2017 still stands