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Hawkmi said:
He should cut back at the training table then. I'm wondering if Hall is aware of the ongoing obesity epidemic in these United States.
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I've seen Hall wearing almost this much jewelry, probably weighs 25lbs.
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CyTwins said:
Hall actually averaged more yards per touch vs good defenses than Goodson. End of discussion
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Against defenses ranked in the top 40 of SP+:

Goodson - 5.3 yards per carry, 7.9 yards per touch
Hall - 3.0 yards per carry, 4.4 yards per touch

Again, if you want to point out that Goodson had a good OL and Hall didn't, I think that is a fair point. But Hall hasn't done anything against a good defense yet. That doesn't mean I think he sucks, he just hasn't proven he can produce against a good defense, while Goodson has proven that he can produce very well against a good defense.
 
Brodie0 said:
Against defenses ranked in the top 40 of SP+:

Goodson - 5.3 yards per carry, 7.9 yards per touch
Hall - 3.0 yards per carry, 4.4 yards per touch

Again, if you want to point out that Goodson had a good OL and Hall didn't, I think that is a fair point. But Hall hasn't done anything against a good defense yet. That doesn't mean I think he sucks, he just hasn't proven he can produce against a good defense, while Goodson has proven that he can produce very well against a good defense.
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So if Hall’s numbers are all padded against bad defenses, why is Goodson’s season YPC lower than his mythical “good defense YPC” you are citing? Shouldn’t he be putting up better numbers against worse defenses?
 
Brodie0 said:
Against defenses ranked in the top 40 of SP+:

Goodson - 5.3 yards per carry, 7.9 yards per touch
Hall - 3.0 yards per carry, 4.4 yards per touch

Again, if you want to point out that Goodson had a good OL and Hall didn't, I think that is a fair point. But Hall hasn't done anything against a good defense yet. That doesn't mean I think he sucks, he just hasn't proven he can produce against a good defense, while Goodson has proven that he can produce very well against a good defense.
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Link?
 
Crookedhatkid said:
So if Hall’s numbers are all padded against bad defenses, why is Goodson’s season YPC lower than his mythical “good defense YPC” you are citing? Shouldn’t he be putting up better numbers against worse defenses?
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He was pretty bad in the bowl game. Not sure if USC falls in his "good defense" category
 
CyTwins has his bone for the next few months. I expect to see another 4,000-7,000 posts about how much better Hall is than Goodson only to see the Hawks win again in September.
 
CyTwins said:
He was pretty bad in the bowl game. Not sure if USC falls in his "good defense" category
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USC was committed to stopping the run in that game. Terrific game calling by BF! If you guys had coaches that could make adjustments, I think you’d have something.
 
JohnnyHopkins said:
USC was committed to stopping the run in that game. Terrific game calling by BF! If you guys had coaches that could make adjustments, I think you’d have something.
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isu’s coaches only focus on conference games according to clone fans on this site. They can’t be bothered to prep their team for the non-conference or Bowl games.
 
JohnnyHopkins said:
USC was committed to stopping the run in that game. Terrific game calling by BF! If you guys had coaches that could make adjustments, I think you’d have something.
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I'm being told USC was a terrible defense though

Also if Slovis doesn't get hurt it doesn't matter what BF does they were going to keep picking Phil Parker apart
 
Brodie0 said:
Against defenses ranked in the top 40 of SP+:

Goodson - 5.3 yards per carry, 7.9 yards per touch
Hall - 3.0 yards per carry, 4.4 yards per touch

Again, if you want to point out that Goodson had a good OL and Hall didn't, I think that is a fair point. But Hall hasn't done anything against a good defense yet. That doesn't mean I think he sucks, he just hasn't proven he can produce against a good defense, while Goodson has proven that he can produce very well against a good defense.
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Tyler Goodson stats with his longest run of the game taken out

Miami OH - 8 for 28 yards (3.5 ypc) *Terrible D
Rutgers - 9 for 34 yards (3.7) *Terrible D
ISU - 2 for 2 yards (1.0)
MTSU - 11 for 70 yards (6.36) *Terrible D
Michigan - 5 for 10 yards (2.0)
PSU - 7 for 6 yards (0.84)
Purdue - 4 for 3 yards (0.75)
Nortwestern - 10 for 46 yards (4.6) *Terrible D
Wisconsin - 4 for 5 yards (1.25)
Minnesota - 12 for 68 (5.66)
Illinois - 20 for 28 yards (1.4)
Neb - 12 for 61 (5.1) *Terrible D
USC - 17 for 39 (2.2)

The story I am trying to tell is that Goodson has a high variance in the outcome of his runs. I would like to see the standard deviation of his season; however, I am not going to waste that much time.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO HOKS WHO DROPPED OUT OF MIDDLE SCHOOL??? This means that Goodson is a boom or bust type of back, not a workhorse that you think of when you think Ferentz brand of football. He was pretty bad against good defense, besides Minnesota. He had about one play a game where the line clicked and he had a big gain.

No, he is not near as good as breece hall.
 
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