Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

[madguy30]

Agreed. Fauci, who is absolutely credible (I don't believe a word of Trump's mouth FWIW) believes we will have the ability to institute wide scale testing in parts of the country by mid-April, and if they can mass test/trace, they can start isolating the sick and opening things up for those who aren't.

This is what South Korea did, right? This is where we need to get to and we clearly aren't there yet, but it doesn't read to me at all that Trump is going to attempt and force governors to open everything up on 4/15. Hell, he can't do that anyways.

And let's be real...these people are trying to get reelected at some point. It's a bad look and terrible for the communities if one state held off for longer to open things up, and came out with better results, and one state opened up too early and became a disaster zone.

I can't imagine people being very happy across the board if things like the state fair are cancelled in connection to letting the pandemic blow up all over again.

 

[Trice]

I don't. By all accords, kids are very unlikely to display symptoms even when they have it. This would lead to a huge spread of it to people they encounter (the entire population).

Sickouts, not sickness. People calling in sick to work or withholding their kids from school because they don't want to get it or spread it further.

Though in that scenario there would be plenty of additional sickness too.

 

[Acylum]

I don't agree with a county by county basis and this is what I'm talking about with people acting like this is just some sort of weather threat.

Schools in one county shouldn't be operating differently than schools just one county over.

It's not a ****ing tornado warning.

And opening and closing specific aspects from the national level would be colossally stupid. I know some people want to go full New York City on Iowa, but the situations could not be more different.

I don't disagree, but I don't understand why some are overreacting to the letter either. It basically states the federal gov't will gather and disseminate data, as soon as testing can be ramped up. Apparently counties will be placed into one of 3 categories. The state and local officials can then use that data to either increase, decrease, or maintain the current restrictions. I'm not seeing where the doors will be flung open on some specific date.

 

[Statefan10]

I don't disagree, but I don't understand why some are overreacting to the letter either. It basically states the federal gov't will gather and disseminate data, as soon as testing can be ramped up. Apparently counties will be placed into one of 3 categories. The state and local officials can then use that data to either increase, decrease, or maintain the current restrictions. I'm not seeing where the doors will be flung open on some specific date.

I think that is a good idea to categorize different counties, and the theory of opening up places that aren't effected as much sounds, but I can't imagine a place in Des Moines will like that their business is closed down while a business 15 miles away from them is open because they're in a different county.

 

[madguy30]

I don't disagree, but I don't understand why some are overreacting to the letter either. It basically states the federal gov't will gather and disseminate data, as soon as testing can be ramped up. Apparently counties will be placed into one of 3 categories. The state and local officials can then use that data to either increase, decrease, or maintain the current restrictions. I'm not seeing where the doors will be flung open on some specific date.

Easter was floated out there yesterday as a time to get rolling.

It was also said that a vaccine will be ready very quickly I think last week or so.

Kinda makes some things hard to believe.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I think that is a good idea to categorize different counties, and the theory of opening up places that aren't effected as much sounds, but I can't imagine a place in Des Moines will like that their business is closed down while a business 15 miles away from them is open because they're in a different county.

Wait. This virus isn't respecting county lines? Seems pretty selfish of it....

 

[besserheimerphat]

I thought there was a specific definition of exponential. Merriam-Webster seems to indicate otherwise Hmm. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exponential

The mathematical definition is a function that increases as a constant percentage of it's current value. There are a few different ways to write the function, but the key is that it increases by XX% of the previous value during every equally spaced time interval.

 

[mywayorcyway]

Wait. This virus isn't respecting county lines? Seems pretty selfish of it....

The virus is kind enough to ask if there are 10 or more people in a room before entering, so it seems to be polite in that respect. Maybe we just haven't asked it nicely enough?

(dripping with sarcasm)

 

[isutrevman]

I'm not interpreting the letter in the same vein as some others:
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/8220...er-to-governors-on-new-coronavirus-guidelines

That's because you actually read the letter.

 

[cowgirl836]

If you use Iowa's fatalities and discharged/never hospitalized rates, the death rate is at 1%.

But that's just using confirmed cases.

And this shouldn't be taken to say I think we need to relax restrictions. We're doing a decent job of keeping it in check, with very minimal loss of life. Let's keep it that way.

Going back to something I read last week, that's the estimated mortality in situations where it's "under control", basically having the capacity to deal with cases adequately. It starts hitting the 4% and higher when you get to situations like Italy (and quickly New York) where you no longer have enough resources to care for everyone coming in.

 

[Rabbuk]

Sickouts, not sickness. People calling in sick to work or withholding their kids from school because they don't want to get it or spread it further.

Though in that scenario there would be plenty of additional sickness too.

Teachers are very protective of their kids even a few kids getting sick and potentially dying would be a big deal for a building. Thus I don't see teachers going back until a real health authority says it is safe.

 

[cowgirl836]

We could very well have 8-9 million cases currently as most are mild/asymptomatic and our testing is lackluster. We know many people have gone to doctors with symptoms consistent with it and have been told to just go home.

the other piece is that going backwards up to two weeks, how many cases do you have if it's doubling every 3-4 days? 1 million or less the Wednesday everything hit the fan? The bulk of those cases are not yet "closed".

 

[andybernard]

I teach at a large middle school in the metro. My principal told me his feeling is no more school this year, but no one is certain, obviously. We are expected to find/create online learning for students to (optionally) complete in order to satisfy our contract requirements as well as take pressure off of parents to "homeschool" their kids. We are not a 1:1 school so there are no required assignments, and it is discouraged to introduce new topics that students would need to know if we return to school this year.

 

[Al_4_State]

Going back to something I read last week, that's the estimated mortality in situations where it's "under control", basically having the capacity to deal with cases adequately. It starts hitting the 4% and higher when you get to situations like Italy (and quickly New York) where you no longer have enough resources to care for everyone coming in.

We took some significant measures when we still had few confirmed cases, and I’m hoping that has limited spread enough (or over enough time) to prevent hospital overload. If we don’t overload, we’ll keep mortality in check

 

[madguy30]

Sickouts, not sickness. People calling in sick to work or withholding their kids from school because they don't want to get it or spread it further.

Though in that scenario there would be plenty of additional sickness too.

This was already happening before schools were closing...I can't imagine it being any better if/when the dust settles from this.

 

[CycloneVet]

If the # of cases in Iowa is truly in the thousands, then the fatality rate is likely less than 0.1%.

Which would be a wonderful thing

 

[BCClone]

I see 57% of the cases are females in Iowa. They say men are messy............

 

[Acylum]

Not making light of the situation, but wanted to share this for Roku users:
https://blog.roku.com/home-together

 

[NorthCyd]

I don't disagree, but I don't understand why some are overreacting to the letter either. It basically states the federal gov't will gather and disseminate data, as soon as testing can be ramped up. Apparently counties will be placed into one of 3 categories. The state and local officials can then use that data to either increase, decrease, or maintain the current restrictions. I'm not seeing where the doors will be flung open on some specific date.

Yeah, but the states have this data already and the capability to make their own decisions. This is essentially a directive from the president and his administration on how they feel the situation should be handled.

 

[Primetime26]

https://www.kcrg.com/content/news/W...irms-second-cases-of-COVID-19--569148911.html