Be careful, they think our stuff is better than Kentucky’s.
people seem to forget how far behind our facilities actually were.
This is why Prohm must go........
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Be careful, they think our stuff is better than Kentucky’s.
people seem to forget how far behind our facilities actually were.
Back to the point of how this is going to be fixed if possible. We need 4 players that shoot over 35% from 3 pt range and make at least one 3 pointer a game (35 makes). That has traditionally been when Iowa State is successful under CFH or CSP. Right now (assuming no TH) we have zero returning starters that fulfill those requirements.
Bolton is close so let’s say he marginally improves. Jackson is at 31% but let’s say he can improve 4-5%. None of the current incoming recruits fit this mold IMO. Foster probably the closest but that’s a stretch. Meaning we need two fairly efficient high-level grad transfers.
Can we least agree that shooting is the only way to fix this or do others think we can fix it in a different fashion?
And to return to this. Imagine being so clueless about the state of athletics and facilities across the NCAA.
Like was said earlier, we aren’t as far behind anymore, compared to where we used to be. But it’s not like other schools just stand pat and don’t improve
******* defense rebounding and toughness is where it starts.
that’s why I’m not optimistic
You might get some of that with Blackwell (if he gets here). Not sure any of the others have the build for that quite yet. I think a few of the kids on this team talk about wanting to be tough but are physically and mentally incapable of having that persona on the floor.
These guys need to spend the offseason in the weight room. Get bigger and stronger. That leads to the mental toughness.
again, that’s why I’m not optimistic.
edit: we really need a lead guy that doesn’t give a ****. Will take a hard foul. I don’t see that in this group, maybe a transfer. Again that’s why I’m not confident
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I think we could fix it in a different fashion but that'll depend on how we use the skills of next year's roster. We should be better at 3pt shooting next year. Nixon leaving is going to help with that the moment he leaves (sorry Prentiss but it's true). I don't think we're going to have a team full of snipers though, rather we're going to be very long and athletic who needs to move the ball and attack the basket. Use our versatility / size at the 3-4 position with Foster, Johnson, Blackwell/Dubar, and hopefully be able to rely on Solomon's post game if need be.
It doesn't look like we're going to be great from beyond the arc next year, so we shouldn't rely on it to stay in games or develop leads, rather take the 3's when they come to us. We're going to have guys that can get into the lane and finish over defenders which this year we didn't outside of Tyrese and Bolton.
We're also going to have to basically get 2x better on the defensive end and I think that's possible with the guys we have available for next year. We'll have to wait and see how that unfolds because I'm not going to believe we'll be good on that end until they go out and prove it.
If next year's team ends up being great from 3, I'll be really surprised, but if we are where I believe we are going to be and we rely heavily on it I'm going to be incredibly disappointed.
I don't think Jameel was ever a great defender. He won the award because of shot blocking.
It's reasonable to expect more frequent trips to the NCAA than we had pre-Hoiberg. It's also not reasonable to expect getting into the tournament for streaks of 6 consecutive years like ISU did in by far its best period of sustained success.
Personally I will never be mad about and ISU team getting a 4, 5 or 6 seed like ISU has since Prohm took over. Could it have been better, sure? But I don't agree with those calling any of those teams failures or major underachievers. Last years team had significant roster turnover and uncertainty not all that different to those in 2011-12 and 12-13. Those teams were 8 and 10 seeds. You can argue which of these rosters had more turnover, more talent, etc., but those differences are not so glaring that you can with certainty call an 8 or 10 seed a success and a 6 seed a failure. It's easy to be really excited about an 8 or 10 seed when you are coming off a six year post season drought. It's tougher to get excited about a wildly inconsistent 6 seed when you are coming off of a recently ended 6 year NCAA streak.
With that said, I just don't see how this years team can be this bad. Not make the tournament, that's one thing. But they are SO bad and just not even competitive in so many games.
Frosted tips?
Jameel was only worried about himself. We won that early season tournament and there he was on Twitter pouting. He had a good senior season, but had he had his head hooked on it could have been better.
And all that's fine. I think it's part of a larger question about Steve's ability to manage difficult personalities. It seems like every year there's a new guy or two that winds up in his dog house.
People seem to act like it was the inmates running the asylum with Fred. But he had an ability to manager their personalities, put them in a position to succeed on the floor, keep them eligible and for the most part keep them out of trouble.
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The season is so bad this year because we lost an absurd amount of talent from last year and completely failed to fill those spots. Outside of Halliburton and Solomon, the returning guys did not make much if any strides from last year to this year. Bolton was a positive, but Nixon essentially equals him out by being a negative. Because returning guys didn't produce we were then forced to play freshman who just aren't ready yet.
A big thing with Fred is that he had guys on his team that held the rest accountable. You had juniors and seniors, some who didn't even play, that would get on your a** if you weren't completely bought in. He also had guys on staff that were absolutely perfect for those roles.
I actually think this year's team has pretty good chemistry, but the talent level is just so far down. They're not a good team but they're not cannibalizing one another and tearing the team apart.
Iowa State literally has nothing else to offer that every other P5 team has though. LMFAO at the "set all time record lows"