ISU press conference about band situation

[2speedy1]

A couple things I see in the video I havent seen mentioned. You can see how empty the other exit is on the other side of the Olson building. If they would have followed directions they would have been able to walk right out. But I have a feeling they wanted to confront fans and play their song and be jerks.
Second if they would have wait 5 minutes by the Jake, you the crowd would have been gone, and they could have exited freely. Again, just trying to antagonize and show they are important.
This goes with all the other things people have pointed out.

 

[Sigmapolis]

"Keeping people out of it's ranks". This is frekain' comical. It's a MARCHING BAND.

Having people in the middle of the column is not a good idea for the band or the people being in the middle, most of which because they are in a great spot to end up trampled.

You are taught from middle school to not let people through.

"I shoved a drunk Hawk to keep him from running through the band" is something our directors would have accepted as self-defense. Nothing good comes from people in there.

 

[BCClone]

Nothing wrong with a band keeping people out of its ranks. But it means the band needs to be aware of potential issues with that and avoid things like pushing into a crowd.

How’ve about them staying out of others ranks?

 

[FinalFourCy]

I don't know how anyone could interpret any of this as anything other than a band that was looking to rub opposing fans' noses in the loss. They ignored explicit instructions and pushed their way into a crowded area - not to exit ASAP but to play the fight song right in the faces of opposing fans standing just feet away.

At this point Iowa deserves all the cynicism it gets. IMO the onus is now on them to show that they didn't do this intentionally to provoke a reaction.

Iowa is victim blaming.

The Iowa band rammed through the crowd wielding instruments that likely assaulted innocent people attempting to exit the stadium.

 

[CysRage]

That video is the kicker to me. The game is over. You have no reason to be playing anymore. There is no need to walk out playing music or in formation. This was clearly thought out before hand and done purposefully to **** off Iowa State fans as they were leaving. I don't know what happened during the game, but as for after the game, they instigated this whole thing.

There need to be questions answered on who was leading the band out the west entrance and why they went against direction to go out the east entrance. Why was the band pushing through the crowd? Why was the band playing when there are very minimal (if any) Iowa fans in the area and is predominantly ISU fans. It wouldn't surprise me if something happened but this EXACT scenario would happen at any college campus across the country. Nothing good was going to come from the decisions the band leaders made post game.

 

[Gunnerclone]

This thread is going where it needs to go now. What’s the problem? THE BANDS.

 

[ArgentCy]

The angle is not having ratings drops.

Ummm... How many ISU fans just turned off the radio like myself? Nope. That doesn't work.

Edit: Figured it out. Keith Murphy loves Bands. That must be the answer.

 

[Cycsk]

If they waited 5 more minutes, they could have marched right out that gate to their buses. Somebody gave them the "go ahead" too soon.

 

[clone1990]

Summary:
- Iowa band intentionally antagonizes Cyclones after loss.
- Iowa band gets triggered.
- Iowa band cries to willing Iowa AD and president.
- Willing AD and president actively use situation to disparage ISU on AmesDay and/or kill the CyHawk series.
- Hoks suck!

 

[Clonefan32]

Having people in the middle of the column is not a good idea for the band or the people being in the middle, most of which because they are in a great spot to end up trampled.

You are taught from middle school to not let people through.

"I shoved a drunk Hawk to keep him from running through the band" is something our directors would have accepted as self-defense. Nothing good comes from people in there.

I guess I may be a little hazy on watch marching bands do. Do you routinely find yourself marching through large, hostile groups of people? How often are people trying to infiltrate your "ranks"?

Here I thought you typically marched on entirely empty fields or street ways. Guess I was wrong.

 

[ArgentCy]

This thread is going where it needs to go now. What’s the problem? THE BANDS.

Technically there is only one band in that video. And they are wearing some ugly A## things on their backs. Band members are a different breed but I'm not going to hold that against all of them. They had some interesting parties, or so I heard.

 

[ArgentCy]

Summary:
- Iowa band intentionally antagonizes Cyclones after loss.
- Iowa band gets triggered.
- Iowa band cries to willing Iowa AD and president.
- Willing AD and president actively use situation to disparage ISU on AmesDay and/or kill the CyHawk series.
- Hoks suck!

Yep, pretty much.

 

[flynnhicks03]

That press conference was more useful than anything Iowa has done since this entire thing broke. My thoughts:

- I wish Pollard and Wintersteen hadn't spent so much time addressing the potential for canceling the CyHawk series. That angle was, from the beginning, a PR stunt and not a meaningful threat from Iowa. Even Harreld knew he'd stepped in it because he walked it back right away. By talking about it, all you do is lend the narrative credibility which then makes Harreld the savior when he "agrees to continue the series," his "conditions" having been met.

- I love that Pollard talked in specifics about the way Iowa, as an institution, treats Iowa's band. Same with the way Iowa's band ignored instructions. Those are all important facts, and you should ignore stupid Iowa fans who invoke "victim blaming/shaming," words they neither knew nor cared about two weeks ago.

- I posted this after the Iowa band director's weird statement from Friday night as my best guess as to what the hell was actually happening, and I'm even more convinced now that it's accurate. Iowa lacked the courage to be forthright with its own students, and ISU's reputation became the collateral damage.

- Iowa, for as monumentally as it's botched the PR surrounding this "incident" (use of quotation marks there is intentional), sounds like they did what they could as far as investigating it. To infer from Pollard's remarks, band members aren't even cooperating with Iowa's administration.

- So, assuming that no police reports are filed - because what exactly are they waiting for? - what are the repercussions for Iowa's band? Probably nothing. But an apology letter for the wall would be nice.

We're going to need a bigger wall soon...

 

[cycloner29]

Remember it's pronounced "Doucherman" for a reason.

 

[alarson]

I guess I may be a little hazy on watch marching bands do. Do you routinely find yourself marching through large, hostile groups of people? How often are people trying to infiltrate your "ranks"?

You'd be surprised how often people try to sneak through during parades and such.

 

[HFCS]

Making it all the more dumb that they took the wrong gate. Note how ISU's band has already completely cleared out. They, as JP said in the presser, took the right gate and didn't get blocked by the crowd. Iowa would have gotten home quicker had they just gone the right way.

Fran should teach them the right way.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Having people in the middle of the column is not a good idea for the band or the people being in the middle, most of which because they are in a great spot to end up trampled.

You are taught from middle school to not let people through.

"I shoved a drunk Hawk to keep him from running through the band" is something our directors would have accepted as self-defense. Nothing good comes from people in there.

No band director teaches to keep rank when the band is going through something. The reverse is romanticized by band members, yes, but most band members should be smart enough to know the difference and realize when they're the ones trying to get in the middle or infiltrate.

 

[CyTwins]

 

[Clonefan32]

You'd be surprised how often people try to sneak through during parades and such.

Well I, for one, hope that our starting offense begins walking around campus in the I Formation and refuses to yield to people.

 

[Max57]

Don't let this distract us from the fact that the NCAA recently sent KU a notice of alleged violations.