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JP4CY said:
So how many games should Iowa win and how many will they?
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Should win:

Miami, easiest game on the schedule
Rutgers, they are Rutgers
Middle Tennessee, harder than it looks as they’ve been a bowl team, lost a bunch though
Minnesota, only cause it’s at home
Illinois, they are ungood
Purdue, see Minnesota

Coin flip games, reasonable chance either way, say 60-40 or less either way
Iowa State, I made a wager on Hawkeye Report against Iowa with the proceeds to charity, but it will be close
Northwestern, stupid Northwestern
Nebraska. Coin flip but I think Iowa loses this one
Penn State. Down a little this year and I think iowa bats them by more than a TD

I don’t think so
Wisconsin. It’s away and Iowa hasn’t played them well
Michigan. They just have so much talent

That gives us six should wins, four coin flips, and two probably not. 8-4, with the losses to ISU, Nebby, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
 
theiacowtipper said:
Should win:

Miami, easiest game on the schedule
Rutgers, they are Rutgers
Middle Tennessee, harder than it looks as they’ve been a bowl team, lost a bunch though
Minnesota, only cause it’s at home
Illinois, they are ungood
Purdue, see Minnesota

Coin flip games, reasonable chance either way, say 60-40 or less either way
Iowa State, I made a wager on Hawkeye Report against Iowa with the proceeds to charity, but it will be close
Northwestern, stupid Northwestern
Nebraska. Coin flip but I think Iowa loses this one
Penn State. Down a little this year and I think iowa bats them by more than a TD

I don’t think so
Wisconsin. It’s away and Iowa hasn’t played them well
Michigan. They just have so much talent

That gives us six should wins, four coin flips, and two probably not. 8-4, with the losses to ISU, Nebby, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
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You think Iowa loses to Nebraska?!?
 
theiacowtipper said:
Should win:

Miami, easiest game on the schedule
Rutgers, they are Rutgers
Middle Tennessee, harder than it looks as they’ve been a bowl team, lost a bunch though
Minnesota, only cause it’s at home
Illinois, they are ungood
Purdue, see Minnesota

Coin flip games, reasonable chance either way, say 60-40 or less either way
Iowa State, I made a wager on Hawkeye Report against Iowa with the proceeds to charity, but it will be close
Northwestern, stupid Northwestern
Nebraska. Coin flip but I think Iowa loses this one
Penn State. Down a little this year and I think iowa bats them by more than a TD

I don’t think so
Wisconsin. It’s away and Iowa hasn’t played them well
Michigan. They just have so much talent

That gives us six should wins, four coin flips, and two probably not. 8-4, with the losses to ISU, Nebby, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
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At least you're very honest. Don't find much of that in Hawkeye fans.

Would you admit that 6 "should wins" is pretty low given all the AA's and NFL picks Iowa has year in and year out? I'm guessing you would since you seem to be pretty honest.

So why does Iowa under perform their talent level usually?
 
theiacowtipper said:
Should win:

Miami, easiest game on the schedule
Rutgers, they are Rutgers
Middle Tennessee, harder than it looks as they’ve been a bowl team, lost a bunch though
Minnesota, only cause it’s at home
Illinois, they are ungood
Purdue, see Minnesota

Coin flip games, reasonable chance either way, say 60-40 or less either way
Iowa State, I made a wager on Hawkeye Report against Iowa with the proceeds to charity, but it will be close
Northwestern, stupid Northwestern
Nebraska. Coin flip but I think Iowa loses this one
Penn State. Down a little this year and I think iowa bats them by more than a TD

I don’t think so
Wisconsin. It’s away and Iowa hasn’t played them well
Michigan. They just have so much talent

That gives us six should wins, four coin flips, and two probably not. 8-4, with the losses to ISU, Nebby, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
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Agree on a fair chunk of that.
 
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Gonzo said:
It's a good question. We always drop at least 1 game that we really shouldn't. I do think ISU wins this year at MidAmerican Energy Field, Campbell needs and wants it too much. It's really the only BIG win he hasn't achieved. I'd set the floor for us at 7 and top it out at 9. It's tough being everybody else's Super Bowl.
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Wanna borrow my sarcasm meter ;)
 
clonedude said:
At least you're very honest. Don't find much of that in Hawkeye fans.

Would you admit that 6 "should wins" is pretty low given all the AA's and NFL picks Iowa has year in and year out? I'm guessing you would since you seem to be pretty honest.

So why does Iowa under perform their talent level usually?
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When 5 of your 6 toughest opponents are on the road, 6 games in the "should win" column is fair.

Does Iowa under perform? Recruit consistently in the 40's and 50's the last several years and usually always finish better than that.
 
CyTwins said:
You think Iowa loses to Nebraska?!?
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Yes. Away game. We have a bit of a winning streak against them and there newish coach has t beaten the Hawks. I think they’ll come out firing and Iowa won’t be able to answer. Same as my prediction for the clones, except ISU will do it on defense vs offense. Nebraska 32 Iowa 27. ISU 20 Iowa 9.
 
clonedude said:
At least you're very honest. Don't find much of that in Hawkeye fans.

Would you admit that 6 "should wins" is pretty low given all the AA's and NFL picks Iowa has year in and year out? I'm guessing you would since you seem to be pretty honest.

So why does Iowa under perform their talent level usually?
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Theory, and this is only my theory. Opinion as it were. Iowa does well when it can get big plays. Against better teams they struggle to methodically and repeatedly move the ball on the ground. They need spark plays. 40 yard pass plays and 25 yard run plays. In the years they’ve gone 7-5 8-4ish, they haven’t had that spark. Iowa’s NFL players don’t often provide that spark, TE this past year excepted. By any measure this past year Iowa was unlucky in most of the close games. Just my opinion.
 
BLHawk said:
When 5 of your 6 toughest opponents are on the road, 6 games in the "should win" column is fair.

Does Iowa under perform? Recruit consistently in the 40's and 50's the last several years and usually always finish better than that.
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It was ironic you particularly “disagreed” with my post about K-State being better than Nebraska, Minnesota, and Northwesters. Because guess where I got that opinion from.... the same awful website you posted that had 2 Iowa guys as 1st team All Americans


https://collegefootballnews.com/201...kings-previews-no-1-to-130-cfn-preview-2019/4
 
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BLHawk said:
When 5 of your 6 toughest opponents are on the road, 6 games in the "should win" column is fair.

Does Iowa under perform? Recruit consistently in the 40's and 50's the last several years and usually always finish better than that.
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The funny part you guys try to ignore is that you lose games every year to teams that aren’t good, see big 14 west division.

And you lose them the same way each time.
 
IowaFan said:
As an Iowa fan, the wins on the field vs the talent we've had has always been disappointing to me. I'm hoping its different this year, but I have no reason to believe it will be.
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There you go. You signed into the right account that time when you posted. I knew you could do it.
 
Curious why ISU fans suddenly think Nebraska and Minnesota are crap teams. ISU is 18-86-2 against Nebraska and 3-22-1 against Minnesota all time. The Big Ten West is gonna be a tough mother this year with Minnesota, Nebraska, and Purdue set to move up. This is the most loaded coaching group I’ve seen in any league outside of the SEC in the Big Ten this year. I wouldn’t favor Iowa St over any West team outside of Illinois this year being dead serious. And Iowa gets two tough crossovers at Michigan and vs Penn State, while having a brutal home/away split in the West @Wisconsin, @Nebraska, @Northwestern.

I do think ISU will do well this year as there is so much transition in the B12 this year. Kansas State is gonna be a multi-year teardown and rebuild as Snyder’s recruiting fell off so bad. TCU is rebuilding its offense after last year’s disaster and essentially will be doing American Idol QB edition. Kansas is still Kansas - yet to win a conference road game in the last 10 years plus.

Continuing, Oklahoma State needs answers on defense that aren’t coming in one offseason. Baylor is fine but they’re a 7 win type of team right now in their post Briles era where they held parts of the roster up with paper mache and transfers. WVU is going through a coach/philosophy/recruiting transition. Neal Brown is good but Holgo left the roster in bad shape and with lots of players that were castoffs. Tech is in roughly the same shape but at least they were left with a good QB.

I do admire ISU’s coaching staff compared to many in the Big 12, they’re a lot less dependent on transfers and JUCO players (the summer-entering, not academically qualified ones specifically) than their brethren.

Literally Texas and Oklahoma are the only good teams standing in Iowa State’s way in conference this year - hence the accolades and preseason projections.
 
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mikesright said:
Curious why ISU fans suddenly think Nebraska and Minnesota are crap teams. ISU is 18-86-2 against Nebraska and 3-22-1 against Minnesota all time. The Big Ten West is gonna be a tough mother this year with Minnesota, Nebraska, and Purdue set to move up. This is the most loaded coaching group I’ve seen in any league outside of the SEC in the Big Ten this year. I wouldn’t favor Iowa St over any West team outside of Illinois this year being dead serious. And Iowa gets two tough crossovers at Michigan and vs Penn State, while having a brutal home/away split in the West @Wisconsin, @Nebraska, @Northwestern.

I do think ISU will do well this year as there is so much transition in the B12 this year. Kansas State is gonna be a multi-year teardown and rebuild as Snyder’s recruiting fell off so bad. TCU is rebuilding its offense after last year’s disaster and essentially will be doing American Idol QB edition. Kansas is still Kansas - yet to win a conference road game in the last 10 years plus.

Continuing, Oklahoma State needs answers on defense that aren’t coming in one offseason. Baylor is fine but they’re a 7 win type of team right now in their post Briles era where they held parts of the roster up with paper mache and transfers. WVU is going through a coach/philosophy/recruiting transition. Neal Brown is good but Holgo left the roster in bad shape and with lots of players that were castoffs. Tech is in roughly the same shape but at least they were left with a good QB.

I do admire ISU’s coaching staff compared to many in the Big 12, they’re a lot less dependent on transfers and JUCO players (the summer-entering, not academically qualified ones specifically) than their brethren.

Literally Texas and Oklahoma are the only good teams standing in Iowa State’s way in conference this year - hence the accolades and preseason projections.
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