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Biggest disadvantage in the CyHawk Series since 1980

CyTwins said:
Your coach has said teams improve the most from week one to week two before...
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I think the biggest disadvantage you guys have is all those players you have suspended for the first game. How many was it? Anyway, tuff break that they’ll be out but you have to hand it to coach Campbell...he runs a tight ship! The Dantonios of the world would probably let those suspensions slide but not CMC!!! Anyway, the hawks not having any week one film makes the first game thing a wash.
 
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CYEATHAWK said:
I'm not so sure. How many times do wildcard teams end up beating the team that had the bye week? Outside of where it is being played....isn't this the same concept?
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No, not even close. They still went through a week of game prep and the game day routine. Apples to oranges IMO.
 
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One thing we do know, it will say nothing about who the better team is in 2018. The only, I say only, acceptable measure of the best team is the final AP poll. Before that, everything is speculation. ISU May beat the Hawks by 30, then if Iowa goes on a roll in the B1G and finishes ahead of the Clones in the AP poll, you can mark it down the Hawks are the better team. Reverse is of course true as well.
 
theiacowtipper said:
One thing we do know, it will say nothing about who the better team is in 2018. The only, I say only, acceptable measure of the best team is the final AP poll. Before that, everything is speculation. ISU May beat the Hawks by 30, then if Iowa goes on a roll in the B1G and finishes ahead of the Clones in the AP poll, you can mark it down the Hawks are the better team. Reverse is of course true as well.
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I don't agree about the 30 point thing although ISU in November of 2016 was different than in September. And since ISU was ranked higher last year and beat more good teams than Iowa would you say Iowa State was better? I'm not saying they were--they both went through the ebb and flow of a season and ended the season with bowl wins.
 
Coming off of a bye week is usually a huge disadvantage. Hopefully it won’t cost us too much and at the end of the game we are all yelling hooray!
 
madguy30 said:
I don't agree about the 30 point thing although ISU in November of 2016 was different than in September. And since ISU was ranked higher last year and beat more good teams than Iowa would you say Iowa State was better? I'm not saying they were--they both went through the ebb and flow of a season and ended the season with bowl wins.
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I assume you mean 2017? Iowa was better in 2016. Iowa and Iowa State were very close last year. In my opinion, the fact that Iowa beat ISU in Ames makes them the better team. Iowa was playing better in November as well.
 
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CyTwins said:
Jay Jordan, Jack Whitver and Jeff Woody all agree with me this gives Iowa the advantage but OK just say I'm trolling if that makes you feel better
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Jay said "Iowa has a slight advantage, Jack said "Having a game under your belt is a big deal but Iowa State can definitely overcome it.", and Jeff "Long story short, I think there is a small advantage for Iowa in that they got their players a week to feel out real-life football. But the mystery of not having game film evens it out a bit."
Iowa has a slight advantage, not the biggest in series history. That is probably why people are calling you a troll. The only big negative is Oline and Rose not getting game reps. I'm not too worried about the Oline because they have to go against Lima, Bailey, and Enyi every day in practice.
 
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And playing a game give s you dings and bruises. ISU doesn’t have those. Advantage ISU. Iowa had at least a half dozen players leave the game for at least a short time with injuries.
 
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IaStateFB 1 said:
Jay said "Iowa has a slight advantage, Jack said "Having a game under your belt is a big deal but Iowa State can definitely overcome it.", and Jeff "Long story short, I think there is a small advantage for Iowa in that they got their players a week to feel out real-life football. But the mystery of not having game film evens it out a bit."
Iowa has a slight advantage, not the biggest in series history. That is probably why people are calling you a troll. The only big negative is Oline and Rose not getting game reps. I'm not too worried about the Oline because they have to go against Lima, Bailey, and Enyi every day in practice.
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It's definitely debatable how big of an advantage it is for Iowa. It's been since 1980 a team has had an advantage either way though so I don't think saying the biggest advantage in series history is that outlandish
 
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CyTwins said:
It's definitely debatable how big of an advantage it is for Iowa. It's been since 1980 a team has had an advantage either way though so I don't think saying the biggest advantage in series history is that outlandish
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It's not an excuse unless you think KF and countless other coaches just made up the whole "teams improve the most from week one to week two" thing. You can argue how big of an advantage it is for you guys but there's no debate that it's an advantage for Iowa
 
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theiacowtipper said:
One thing we do know, it will say nothing about who the better team is in 2018. The only, I say only, acceptable measure of the best team is the final AP poll. Before that, everything is speculation. ISU May beat the Hawks by 30, then if Iowa goes on a roll in the B1G and finishes ahead of the Clones in the AP poll, you can mark it down the Hawks are the better team. Reverse is of course true as well.
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theiacowtipper said:
I assume you mean 2017? Iowa was better in 2016. Iowa and Iowa State were very close last year. In my opinion, the fact that Iowa beat ISU in Ames makes them the better team. Iowa was playing better in November as well.
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You’re contradicting yourself.
In your first post you said the only acceptable measure is the final AP poll.

Well the final AP poll last year was ISU getting 36 votes and Iowa getting 2.
Therefore, by your standards ISU was the better team last year.

Then you go on to add a couple more measureables such as: “Iowa beat ISU in Ames” and “Iowa was playing better in November”.

So which is it? The final AP poll or should we keep adding measureables to determine the better team?
 
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