***OFFICIAL IOWA/ISU WEEK THREAD***

ISU fans are so wrapped up into beating Iowa that they just don't get this. Beating Iowa or Iowa beating ISU one game does not make them have the better season. By any objective metric (as you pointed out) ISU has had the better season only 4 or at the most 5 times over the last 18 years.

It is like trying to claim Iowa as a NIt team was better than ISU because they beat them. Or some team saying they are better and they are a 10 seed who gets knocked out in the first round while the other team was a 5 seed and made the sweet 16.

Congrats on beating Iowa the years Iowa clearly had the better season, it doesn't make your team better. Iowa beat Michigan last year, and Michigan was the team that finished in the top 10, not Iowa.
So are you saying that when we beat you on Saturday, that doesn't prove that we are better than you? I think you will see the difference between the 2 teams. ISU is far superior this season.
 
So are you saying that when we beat you on Saturday, that doesn't prove that we are better than you? I think you will see the difference between the 2 teams. ISU is far superior this season.

Did Iowa prove that they were better than ISU in bball by taking them to the woodshed and beating them by double digits?
 
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So are you saying that when we beat you on Saturday, that doesn't prove that we are better than you? I think you will see the difference between the 2 teams. ISU is far superior this season.

No, just like Iowa kicking ISU ass in basketball didn't prove they were better. Just like Iowa beating Michigan didn't make them better than Michigan last year. If I could trade the Michigan win for their 10-3 record I would in a heartbeat.
 
But ISU was not the better team every time they won. Was Iowa better than ISU in bball last year?
Oh C'mon dude! It is telling when you have to switch sports

Let's break this down
2014- iSu won finished 2-1 and iowa 7-6- iowa had 0 wins over teams with winning records ZERO
2012- iSu won and finished 6-7 and iowa finished 4-8
2011- iSU won finished 6-7 and iowa finished 7-6. Double OT and iSu had two redzone TOs one being a fumbled snap
2007- iSu won finished 3-9 and iowa finished 6-6 with 2 wins over winning teams
2005- iSu won finished a disappointing 7-5 iowa finished 7-5 with 2 wins against winning teams
2002- Has been discussed adnauseum
2001- iSu wins both teams finished 7-5 game was played in November
2002- I mean c'mon don't even try
1999- iSu wins finishes 4-7 iowa finishes 1-10.


So you are talking about 2014, 2007 and 2002.
2014- iowa beat no one with a winning record best win was 30-14 over a 6-7 Illinois team The big ten was very bad and iowa had an easy schedule.
2007- That is the one year you have and argument but geez...iowa lost to 5-7 Western Michigan and barely beat bad NIU and Minny teams
2002- This one can be debated time and time again. iSu was very hot at the begining of the season.


Even those three games...it didn't take some Superbowl type effort to beat mediocre to bad iowa teams
 
But ISU was not the better team every time they won. Was Iowa better than ISU in bball last year?
What year that iSu won was iowa better. Let's start there and I don't want...iowa was better because iahawks says iowa was better. Give something tangible to back up your crap.

Reality is when two teams are close and they play one another...the best way to decide is head to head.

Your basketball correlation fails because iSu and iowa were nowhere close and iSu simply played bad. Now if you can prove that iowa played worse than what they normally played or iSu played better than what they normally played...you would have a case

For example
2014- NOPE-iowa's offense was 1 yard per play lower than their average, average on total defense, better than their average on scoring defense, better than their average on turnover margin- Pretty much average or better than average in every category
 
Oh C'mon dude! It is telling when you have to switch sports

Let's break this down
2014- iSu won finished 2-1 and iowa 7-6- iowa had 0 wins over teams with winning records ZERO
2012- iSu won and finished 6-7 and iowa finished 4-8
2011- iSU won finished 6-7 and iowa finished 7-6. Double OT and iSu had two redzone TOs one being a fumbled snap
2007- iSu won finished 3-9 and iowa finished 6-6 with 2 wins over winning teams
2005- iSu won finished a disappointing 7-5 iowa finished 7-5 with 2 wins against winning teams
2002- Has been discussed adnauseum
2001- iSu wins both teams finished 7-5 game was played in November
2002- I mean c'mon don't even try
1999- iSu wins finishes 4-7 iowa finishes 1-10.


So you are talking about 2014, 2007 and 2002.
2014- iowa beat no one with a winning record best win was 30-14 over a 6-7 Illinois team The big ten was very bad and iowa had an easy schedule.
2007- That is the one year you have and argument but geez...iowa lost to 5-7 Western Michigan and barely beat bad NIU and Minny teams
2002- This one can be debated time and time again. iSu was very hot at the begining of the season.


Even those three games...it didn't take some Superbowl type effort to beat mediocre to bad iowa teams

Even @CyTwins admits Iowa was the better team in '14, '07 and '02 and he is the biggest Iowa troll on the planet (until you I guess).
 
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Oh C'mon dude! It is telling when you have to switch sports

Let's break this down
2014- iSu won finished 2-1 and iowa 7-6- iowa had 0 wins over teams with winning records ZERO
2012- iSu won and finished 6-7 and iowa finished 4-8
2011- iSU won finished 6-7 and iowa finished 7-6. Double OT and iSu had two redzone TOs one being a fumbled snap
2007- iSu won finished 3-9 and iowa finished 6-6 with 2 wins over winning teams
2005- iSu won finished a disappointing 7-5 iowa finished 7-5 with 2 wins against winning teams
2002- Has been discussed adnauseum
2001- iSu wins both teams finished 7-5 game was played in November
2002- I mean c'mon don't even try
1999- iSu wins finishes 4-7 iowa finishes 1-10.


So you are talking about 2014, 2007 and 2002.
2014- iowa beat no one with a winning record best win was 30-14 over a 6-7 Illinois team The big ten was very bad and iowa had an easy schedule.
2007- That is the one year you have and argument but geez...iowa lost to 5-7 Western Michigan and barely beat bad NIU and Minny teams
2002- This one can be debated time and time again. iSu was very hot at the begining of the season.


Even those three games...it didn't take some Superbowl type effort to beat mediocre to bad iowa teams

This has been broken down before, but I guess we will do it one more time for you.

1999-ISU better team
2000 - ISU better team
2001-Even
2002-Even at the time they played when ISU was still healthy and Iowa didn't know how good they could be.
2005-ISU better team
2007-Both bad teams, but I feel Iowa was slightly better
2011-Even
2012-ISU better team
2014-Iowa was slightly better

So I would put it at ISU was the better team in 4 of those wins, even in three and Iowa was better in two. And I even gave you that ISU was equal team at the time they played in 2002. That is being more than generous there. Basically it shows that ISU has won just about every single game where both teams were pretty comparable by very slim margins.

I stand by my statement, that if you were to replay the same 18 games again, I feel that ISU could not have done any better than 9 wins. More than likely they would get 6 or 7 wins.
 
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Did Iowa prove that they were better than ISU in bball by taking them to the woodshed and beating them by double digits?
Basketball is much different than football, but you already know this.
 
I enjoy all the Hawk talk that the Cyclone fan base provides on this site. Thanks!
Mmmmm...the majority of which appears to be coming from Hawk fans.

I'm so sorry you don't have a well-run, high-traffic website of your own to populate. You should really find someone smart enough to run one of those, like our own Chris Williams. Of course, then you'd need a set of dedicated mods who are even-handed in their approach to posting styles. I guess Hawkeyes who are intelligent, web-savvy, and even-handed are too hard to find.

Well, no matter. We'll put up with you poor homeless souls.
 
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So you'll leave Sunday when the talk is done?

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