OK - who wins the game on Sept. 9th ?

I was there and watched Iowa destroy ISU in the second half. Iowa should have won by 21, but they turned it over at the 10 yard line with like 9 or 10 minutes to go in the 4th. ISU didn't have an answer for Iowa in the second half. That was a very decisive beat down, and if you couldn't see that from the stands you don't understand football.
Ah...the you don't understand football claim. Thrown out by the guy that thinks his TE didn't RS because he was really good when 8n fact it was because of lack of depth
 
Where are people arguing that?

Did you read the posts? I had 2 poster arguing with me about it.

Lol at you claiming Rudock.
Fact, 3 of the last 4 starting QB's for Iowa have been drafted. Rudock was one of those QB's
Troll on, brother. No way you and @hawxrox09 are this dumb.
Yes, Iowa QB's are known for their great successes and storied careers in the NFL.
Mate, you still can't claim Rudock.
 
Ah...the you don't understand football claim. Thrown out by the guy that thinks his TE didn't RS because he was really good when 8n fact it was because of lack of depth

Wanna bet on who has the better year, Allen or Fant? My guess is gonna claim that you can't bet an internet poster. What that really means is you know Fant > Allen.
 
Did you read the posts? I had 2 poster arguing with me about it.

This is the message I responded to:

Gotta have your backups ready to go if the starters are injured. Who cares about 4 years from now anyway, as Iowa will have its next NFL draft pick sitting on the bench like Stanzi, Rudock, CJ by then.

Rudock wasn't drafted a Hawkeye nor would he have been if he stayed. Ferentz broke him, mismanaged the qbs that year, and fans were throwing Rudock under the bus. This is about as bad as the Big 10 claiming Tommy Frazier as one of their own.
 
This is the message I responded to:



Rudock wasn't drafted a Hawkeye nor would he have been if he stayed. Ferentz broke him, mismanaged the qbs that year, and fans were throwing Rudock under the bus. This is about as bad as the Big 10 claiming Tommy Frazier as one of their own.

Could you imagine ISU fans taking credit for Wesley Johnson?
 
Fact, 3 of the last 4 starting QB's for Iowa have been drafted. Rudock was one of those QB's
This is the message I responded to:



Rudock wasn't drafted a Hawkeye nor would he have been if he stayed. Ferentz broke him, mismanaged the qbs that year, and fans were throwing Rudock under the bus. This is about as bad as the Big 10 claiming Tommy Frazier as one of their own.


You quoted this post of mine.

Fact, 3 of the last 4 starting QB's for Iowa have been drafted. Rudock was one of those QB's

This was your response to what I said

Troll on, brother. No way you and @hawxrox09 are this dumb.

You are obviously not acknowledging that Rudock was Iowa's starting QB for 2 years. He was a Nflbeat out by a better QB and transferred for a year
 
Wanna bet on who has the better year, Allen or Fant? My guess is gonna claim that you can't bet an internet poster. What that really means is you know Fant > Allen.
Would be a silly bet considering Fant will be receiving option 2 or 3 in Iowa's offense while Allen will be option 4 or 5.

By no means does that mean Fant>Allen. You literally are just making that bet out of hope.
 
Would be a silly bet considering Fant will be receiving option 2 or 3 in Iowa's offense while Allen will be option 4 or 5.

By no means does that mean Fant>Allen. You literally are just making that bet out of hope.

Fant played last year. Allen has yet to play one single snap of football, on a team who didn't really use TE last year. Who would be betting on hope?
 
Fant played last year. Allen has yet to play one single snap of football, on a team who didn't really use TE last year. Who would be betting on hope?
You are betting on hope. There is nothing factual at all that says Fant is better than Allen.

Literally that's you hoping it. Have you seen Allen in person? Or Fant? Did Fant show you enough to think he'll be better?
 
You are betting on hope. There is nothing factual at all that says Fant is better than Allen.

Literally that's you hoping it. Have you seen Allen in person? Or Fant? Did Fant show you enough to think he'll be better?

Yes, Fant showed plenty last year. If you watched every game 2 or 3 times like I do (at Kinnick then at home again at least once sometimes twice) it was easy to see the potential there.

He was behind blocking wise, which is understandable as a true Fr. He is gonna be playing a ton of snaps, he is Iowa's #1 TE in a TE heavy offense.

Now if I was to say Hockenson > Allen that is based on hope. He is Iowa's #2 TE, but I haven't seen him play outside of spring and kids day.
 
How in the hell did KF "break" Rudock?

He got beat out by a better QB, its not that hard to see.

Rudock played pretty well his RS junior year, but seemed to lack confidence. Knowing CJ was going play and Jake wasn't going to be the full-time guy probably didn't help.

I'm not sure Rudock being beaten out was the reason for the move. Going to into the bowl game people were openly talking about Beathard being the one to transfer. As rumored on Hawkeye message boards many felt Beathard threatened to transfer if he wasn't given the starting job.
 
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