Seemingly never ending Iowa MBB thread (still going.....)

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Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

I put right in my grading criteria that an A is all conference player. Monte is clearly that, so yeah a B+ is either a Troll or just an uninformed grade. Please learn to read and follow the rules. Thx.

Haha...will do.
 
Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

There's a lot of talk about defense for a fanbase whose two major athletics teams don't play any.

Why don't we switch to offensive performance or something similar? Then both sides can have a decent discussion.
 
Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

There's a lot of talk about defense for a fanbase whose two major athletics teams don't play any.

Why don't we switch to offensive performance or something similar? Then both sides can have a decent discussion.

Remember when Iowa gave up 48 pts to ISU in the second half?
 
Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Gesell - C
Clemmons - C+
Jok - B
Uthoff - A
Dingleberry - C
Bench - D

Morris - A
Thomas - B
Nader - C
Niang - A
McKay - B
Bench - D

Right now? I think ISU goes further in the tournament but Iowa has a better resume so if we're going off that I'll go with this:

Iowa - B+
ISU - B

We are pretty close to agreement in all of these actually. I would only differ on would be Jok, as he is a A- by the criteria I laid out, as he will certainly be 2nd team All Big Ten.

I would also say Iowa is an overall A and ISU an overall B+. Maybe just picking nits on that, as I didn't really lay down criteria for team ranking. I would say a #1/2 seed is a A, a #3-7 seed a B, a #8 and lower seed a C, and not making the NCAA a D.
 
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I went to Oklahoma State. And I guarantee I've been in that building a ton more than you.

So you're an ISU fan who went to Oklahoma State and doesn't like Iowa?

I've been to Carver for more than one ISU/Iowa game and it is not a good basketball arena at all. Most Hawk fans will even acknowledge that.
 
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How does Niang get an A when he only plays on 1 half of the court? You want to call Woodbury and average defender, Niang is average at best. He's been in foul trouble more times than not because he is lazy on defense a reaches way to much.

Woodbury stays in good position, doesn't foul a lot and rebounds well. He is having a nice senior year and doing what they need him to do. No he didn't live up to the 5* billing but he has a chance this year to do something special as a team.
 
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And his ball screens are above average.
 
Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

There's a lot of talk about defense for a fanbase whose two major athletics teams don't play any.

Why don't we switch to offensive performance or something similar? Then both sides can have a decent discussion.
I'm glad you spent 4 months coming up with that solid first post.
 
Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

How does Niang get an A when he only plays on 1 half of the court? You want to call Woodbury and average defender, Niang is average at best. He's been in foul trouble more times than not because he is lazy on defense a reaches way to much.

Woodbury stays in good position, doesn't foul a lot and rebounds well. He is having a nice senior year and doing what they need him to do. No he didn't live up to the 5* billing but he has a chance this year to do something special as a team.

He was a first team preseason all american and is averaging 19 pgg while shooting 52% from the floor. That's like me asking how did Uthoff get an A when he only plays in 1 half of the game. Stupid
 
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So you're an ISU fan who went to Oklahoma State and doesn't like Iowa? I've been to Carver for more than one ISU/Iowa game and it is not a good basketball arena at all. Most Hawk fans will even acknowledge that.
Carver looks like a cheesecracker box.
 
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Remember when Iowa gave up 48 pts to ISU in the second half?
So you want to claim "scoreboard". Then do so. But let's have discussions that you can intelligently contribute to. Talking about defense wouldn't be one of those discussions.
 
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So you want to claim "scoreboard". Then do so. But let's have discussions that you can intelligently contribute to. Talking about defense wouldn't be one of those discussions.

Since the Baylor game ISU's defense has greatly improved. ISU is the #13 team in the RPI, they are doing just fine
 
Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

How does Niang get an A when he only plays on 1 half of the court? You want to call Woodbury and average defender, Niang is average at best. He's been in foul trouble more times than not because he is lazy on defense a reaches way to much.

Woodbury stays in good position, doesn't foul a lot and rebounds well. He is having a nice senior year and doing what they need him to do. No he didn't live up to the 5* billing but he has a chance this year to do something special as a team.

Take that up with every basketball analyst there is and let us know what you find out. This is the stuff that makes it hard to take some of you guys seriously.

P.S. Weren't you the guy who said Florida State would be better than ISU? Not really a big basketball mind are you?
 
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He was a first team preseason all american and is averaging 19 pgg while shooting 52% from the floor. That's like me asking how did Uthoff get an A when he only plays in 1 half of the game. Stupid

Well, again, this was a defensive conversation that you want to contribute to. But you'll knock Woodbury for not blocking shots, then state Uthoff plays no defense when he does block shots.

I beg of you - can we please talk about something other than defense? This is comparable to walking to in to an elementary and discussing calculus.
 
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He was a first team preseason all american and is averaging 19 pgg while shooting 52% from the floor. That's like me asking how did Uthoff get an A when he only plays in 1 half of the game. Stupid

Uthoff doesn't play half the game. He's the only player in college bball averaging 2 3 pointers made and 2 blocked shots per game. Niang is good offensively which is what most of these awards are about, but he plays poor defense.

James Harden is an NBA all star and maybe the worst defensive player in the NBA. With him it's lack of effort.
 
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Well, again, this was a defensive conversation that you want to contribute to. But you'll knock Woodbury for not blocking shots, then state Uthoff plays no defense when he does block shots.

I beg of you - can we please talk about something other than defense? This is comparable to walking to in to an elementary and discussing calculus.

Two things I never said
 
Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Well, again, this was a defensive conversation that you want to contribute to. But you'll knock Woodbury for not blocking shots, then state Uthoff plays no defense when he does block shots.

I beg of you - can we please talk about something other than defense? This is comparable to walking to in to an elementary and discussing calculus.

D - Trolling game is weak
 
Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Uthoff doesn't play half the game. He's the only player in college bball averaging 2 3 pointers made and 2 blocked shots per game. Niang is good offensively which is what most of these awards are about, but he plays poor defense.

James Harden is an NBA all star and maybe the worst defensive player in the NBA. With him it's lack of effort.

He's a terrific first half player I'll give him that
 
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