*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Not going to happen. NCAA would have to allow for another game. If they do that after turning down playoff system for the entire FBS, you can guarantee congress getting involved.

Apparently people just don't pay attention. Think of the clout that Grassley and Harkin have, and the favors they have accumulated over the years. These big schools and their athletics are just begging for DC to take their cut. ISU getting left out in the cold? You will see bipartisan scorched earth destruction like you wouldn't believe. Can you imagine the documents and emails they could unearth during discovery? How about making these folks testify?

One think I have always enjoyed about Iowans. We hold a grudge. We may not snap that easy, but when we let loose we bring that biblical vengeance sort of stuff. I mean honey badger don't care destruction.

These folks may think that they can do what they want without repercussions. They will be thinking wrong. Those senators sent a warning shot last year to these folks. Apparently they just don't listen.

Besides, when I think PACIFIC anything, I think Oklahoma, don't you?
 
So I was bored tonight so I checked to see where OU's airplane has been...and may have stumbled onto something.

Here is what I found:

KSU owned plane left Manhattan and arrived in Wichita at 2:46pm today. Then left for Manhattan at 9:48pm tonight.

Unknown plane left Napa Co airport in CA and arrived in Wichita tonight at 7:13pm and has not left.

Unknown plane left Austin and arrived in Wichita at 9:16pm tonight.

OU owned plane flew from Norman to Wichita yesterday, then to Dallas, then back to Norman today.



Could all of this be related? Wichita being some sort of clandestine meeting point?

Maybe could be what all the super secret messages were about??????:wink:
 
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SIAP (from the supposed Big Ten insider on the Northwestern board):

WildcatReport.com - Message Boards

Big Ten officials met today to discuss how the conference could and should accommodate both Texas and ND. In short, the conference believes that the membership of each school can be accomplished largely within the context of the terms presented. Some other interesting developments have taken place in the last few days.

Over the weekend, a new group of Texas stakeholders made a very aggressive push to the Big Ten conference to invite UT to the conference in the short term. The scenario proposed would involve the start of athletic competition in the conference by UT as early as 2012. This group did include official representatives of the university, along with other influential boosters. In response, the conference expressed the need to speak with only one consistent, designated group of UT representatives.

Separately, the more familiar UT representatives, who have conducted conversations with the Big Ten in the past, reaffirmed the approach that Texas should not initiate the breakup of the Big 12 conference in order to join the Big Ten for political considerations. These representatives once again stated to conference officials that membership in the Big Ten conference (in accord with the terms presented last week) remains Texas' preferred conference affiliation option. The Big Ten also strongly impressed upon this group of UT representatives the need for university representatives to conduct conversations with the conference in one unified voice.

However, in discussions related to the terms presented, the Big Ten responded favorably. The Big Ten is preliminarily in agreement, particularly with the scheduling considerations and the "approximate" target date of 2014 for affiliation. The conference also strongly affirmed that it will not allow third parties, especially third party television networks not controlled by the conference or the universities, to dictate or strongly influence the terms of membership in the conference for either school. The conference expressed its displeasure with the manipulative reporting disseminated by certain television networks.

Conference officials believe that significant potential synergies exist between the Longhorn Network and the Big Ten Network. The officials expressed the belief that all of the expanded conference's stakeholders can achieve this potential with greatly reduced third party network involvement. Each network would gain significant opportunities to independently grow and expand together, under the control of the Big Ten Conference and its expanded institutional membership (and specifically NOT through control delegated to third party television networks). The super network that would result from this affiliation could dictate the terms of viewership in a way that ultimately benefits the mission of the expanded conference and its schools, along with their supporters. The Big Ten will remain open to any arrangement, including the formation of regionalized "Big Ten Networks", that ultimately achieve this goal.

Big Ten officials initiated conversations with Notre Dame stakeholders to keep them appraised of the discussions with both groups of Texas representatives.

Also over the weekend, a group of representatives from the University of Oklahoma again contacted the Big Ten regarding the potential for their own membership in the conference, in what was characterized as a "last ditch effort". The Big Ten once again respectfully informed the group that the Council of Presidents and Chancellors has already ruled out the addition of either Oklahoma school, primarily over concerns related to academic fit within the conference.
 
I have mostly stayed out of this thread, but I'm not gonna lie, Texas to the B1G would seriously **** me off. That move makes hardly any sense:realmad:

Only geographically, and within our understanding that UT wants to screw over anybody they can in the pursuit of more money. Having to share with the Big 10 doesn't seem to fit with this motive.

From the B1G's point of view, however, if UT wants to, they say "OK!!", because UT (I think?) has very highly rated academics, and the Big 10 Network would get all of the cable subscribers in the state of Texas. HUGE $$$$$.
 
Only geographically, and within our understanding that UT wants to screw over anybody they can in the pursuit of more money. Having to share with the Big 10 doesn't seem to fit with this motive.

From the B1G's point of view, however, if UT wants to, they say "OK!!", because UT (I think?) has very highly rated academics, and the Big 10 Network would get all of the cable subscribers in the state of Texas. HUGE $$$$$.

Then why don't we just create a United States Best ******* Teams Regardless of Geography Conference. Featuring USC, LSU, Florida, Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, Oklahoma, Boise State, Wisconsin, and Maryland(just to maximize distance). ****'s ridiculous, always about money.
 
Writers' roundtable -- Our experts answer three big questions about realignment - ESPN

This seems like more credible reporting to me.

Katz: If this gigantic shakeup occurs, it's likely not going to be for 2012. The timetable is getting too late for scheduling to make this happen for next fall. I hope -- and I predict -- this turns out more like last summer. Texas A&M moves to the SEC. Someone replaces the Aggies in the Big 12. And then we exhale. I've talked to countless schools and league commissioners and haven't found a single one that really wants to go to a 16-team conference. They only look at it in the prism of, "Well, if it has to happen, then we might as well join or get left behind." But no one really wants to be in such a mess.
 
How is this for a conspiracy theory? This super conference idea was spawned by ESPN as part of their vision to achieving a college playoff. How much of what is showing up in the media is being sourced by ESPN to create instability and force conferences into expansion?
 
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How is this for a conspiracy theory? This super conference idea was spawned by ESPN as part of their vision to achieving a college playoff. How much of what is showing up in the media is being sourced by ESPN to create instability and force conferences into expansion?

That doesn't make sense since this is from espn....

Katz: If this gigantic shakeup occurs, it's likely not going to be for 2012. The timetable is getting too late for scheduling to make this happen for next fall. I hope -- and I predict -- this turns out more like last summer. Texas A&M moves to the SEC. Someone replaces the Aggies in the Big 12. And then we exhale. I've talked to countless schools and league commissioners and haven't found a single one that really wants to go to a 16-team conference. They only look at it in the prism of, "Well, if it has to happen, then we might as well join or get left behind." But no one really wants to be in such a mess.
 
If that NW poster is accurate (which seems unlikely since no one has been that accurate), it would seem that the Big 10 actually does care about academics, which would bode well for us if Texas comes aboard.

After adding Texas and Notre Dame, the Big 10 could add UNI and still make money.
 
That doesn't make sense since this is from espn....

Katz: If this gigantic shakeup occurs, it's likely not going to be for 2012. The timetable is getting too late for scheduling to make this happen for next fall. I hope -- and I predict -- this turns out more like last summer. Texas A&M moves to the SEC. Someone replaces the Aggies in the Big 12. And then we exhale. I've talked to countless schools and league commissioners and haven't found a single one that really wants to go to a 16-team conference. They only look at it in the prism of, "Well, if it has to happen, then we might as well join or get left behind." But no one really wants to be in such a mess.

Which makes sense for there to be rumblings from Missouri, ISU, Baylor, KU and KSU, but for OU to be one of the loudmouths about switching conferences says to me this is not the whole truth. OU would always have a place to land, as would Texas. For them to be the first to jump would be crazy imo.

But this ESPN talk has me wondering. Does anyone know, since there is the issue of Tax Exemption, the Money that ESPN gives for the TV deals, do they get to deduct that as a donation?
 
What I think is dumb right now is that Oklahoma is saying that like the Big 12 except for the public image and its stability. Oklahoma, you can do something about that. You're the ones who opened your mouth after A&M decided to leave. If all 9 commit and add BYU or whoever, then make another shot at 2 more schools 5 or 10 years down the road and everything is fine. All you have to do is make a binding agreement to stay together and nobody else can leave. Then all talk of instability would be gone.
 
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