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***OFFICIAL BIG12 EXPANSION THREAD***

HFCS said:
Splash could be bad. Too much splash spurs major changes all over the place which opens ISU up to risk. BYU football is as good or better than the average BCS program these days, UCF has a ton of potential. Both are new markets. That's a good splash in my book. Plus I like ISU's chances when we get UCF up here in the cold.

Those two and a 3rd solid program certainly would more than make up for one A&M. Probably not Neb/CU/A&M combined unless it's ND, but still much better than where we were at nine and shrinking.
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I agree with you. I would be thrilled with UCF as long as it brings stability. I want to get back to 12 and no more.
 
Is all the UCF speculation coming from flight tracker? If so, the flight destination is a lot closer to the USF campus in Tampa than UCF in Orlando.
 
I think it would make a lot of sense if they got two Florida teams instead of just one. If were going to dip into Florida might as well go big.
 
We should want the number of BCS teams to go up way past 64. Pac12 Scott's publicly open push is for a 4x16 mega structure. We could quite easily be out of that. The more non AQ teams that get promoted the higher above 64 that # gets.

2 BCS AQ programs (maybe us and Baylor?) and a ton of non-AQs could have been easily screwed. 10 AQ programs and a ton of non-AQ schools will be harder for a ****** bag like Scott to screw over for some money.

TCU, Utah, BYU and now maybe UCF all push up that number. Including ND there were 66 AQ teams before all this. With TCU and Utah becoming AQ it's now 68, if we add BYU and UCF it's 70. If 4x16 is the formula you have to kick out 6 teams now in addition to excluding Boise State, Hawaii, Houston etc... That won't happen so if there eventually are 4 superleagues they'd be 18-20 and ISU would be safe.
 
cymonat said:
Is all the UCF speculation coming from flight tracker? If so, the flight destination is a lot closer to the USF campus in Tampa than UCF in Orlando.
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I read a tweet somewhere that listed UCF along with the usual suspects. He could have been just going by flight tracker to though.
 
HFCS said:
We should want the number of BCS teams to go up way past 64. Pac12 Scott's publicly open push is for a 4x16 mega structure. We could quite easily be out of that. The more non AQ teams that get promoted the higher above 64 that # gets.

2 BCS AQ programs (maybe us and Baylor?) and a ton of non-AQs could have been easily screwed. 10 AQ programs and a ton of non-AQ schools will be harder for a ****** bag like Scott to screw over for some money.

TCU, Utah, BYU and now maybe UCF all push up that number. Including ND there were 66 AQ teams before all this. With TCU and Utah becoming AQ it's now 68, if we add BYU and UCF it's 70. If 4x16 is the formula you have to kick out 6 teams now in addition to excluding Boise State, Hawaii, Houston etc... That won't happen so if there eventually are 4 superleagues they'd be 18-20 and ISU would be safe.
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I saw your post over on the CougarCorner board. Very nice post, I was thinking of doing the same thing but didn't go ahead and register. They all seem very excited about possibly joining the Big 12.
 
How about BYU, ECU, and UCF. ECU and UCF could have a nice rivalry.

Where is that ECU fan from earlier?
 
Would love to see ECU in the mix. Graduated from East Wake, and saw first hand how avid their fans are.

My question is...would UCF or ECU be a MORE likely to stay with the B12 if they high prime-time status, or would they be more likely to defect given the opportunity in the future?

Would UCF stay in the big 12 if they got an ACC invite? Same with ECU? That's a log way away, but it's something to ponder. ISU is a little geographically isolated and it worries me a bit. If we developed one of those teams into a contender, might they be more likely to slip away gven the opportunity, rather than Sri jog with a geographically logical pod like Mizzou, ISU, Kansas, and K-State?


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CysRage said:
I think they actually have one of the best (if not the best) undergrad enrollments in the nation by being in the mid to upper 50,000. It is surprising that they have never been considered to be in a bcs conference until this point. I wouldn't mind playing in Orlando every 4 years. :yes:

Edit: Just checked, they have the largest undergrad enrollment in the nation at approximately 48,000 students and approximately 9,000 grad students.
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Gee, that is Aggie size.
 
HFCS said:
They're not a good idea, but they're not the worst idea getting mentioned. That's all I was saying. Both in terms of recent football quality and media exposure.
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If your goal is to come up with an idea that isn't the worst idea it shouldn't take much. NIU is close to the worst idea.
 
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