Another Justin Hamilton Update

[swarthmoreCY]

I don't follow this analogy. So you're not allowed to quit your job, even if you don't like your boss, because your company is the reason you have marketable skills?

Like I alluded to, it is not a perfect analogy.
The enhancement of Ham's game is in many ways, the product of the ISU MBB.
Also, if a job signs an under-qualified/trained candidate to a four-year contract (I know scholarships are for 1 year) and invests heavily to get them competent, I think most would agree it is acceptable for the employee to fulfill the expected length of the contract.
Regardless of this analogy, Ham is not Ham of today without ISU. Perhaps he could have reached this level in two years without ISU... however he did it at ISU. He is the one that chose not to go to a JuCo.

 

[Tornado man]

You totally don't get what I mean when I say that. My point is that Iowa State put a lot into the kid and it sucks that once he is about ready to hit his prime, he leaves. I'm not saying that he owes his success to Iowa State at all. There's a big difference.

From your 3/12 blog, speaking of Hamilton:

"And he's leaving Iowa State. That's the same Cyclone program that built him up to the player he is today."

Chris, I thought you were pretty clear about to whom you think Hamilton owes his success.

 

[cyismydog]

From your 3/12 blog, speaking of Hamilton:

"And he's leaving Iowa State. That's the same Cyclone program that built him up to the player he is today."

Chris, I thought you were pretty clear about to whom you think Hamilton owes his success.

Here's an idea: Quit being a jerk to everyone, arguing over semantics, disparaging anyone or anything having to do with ISU basketball, and get a life.

 

[Tre4ISU]

From your 3/12 blog, speaking of Hamilton:

"And he's leaving Iowa State. That's the same Cyclone program that built him up to the player he is today."

Chris, I thought you were pretty clear about to whom you think Hamilton owes his success.

Nowhere and I mean nowhere in that quote does it talk about Ham owing anything. It simply says ISU helped to make him what he is today. How can you possibly pull out that he said Ham owed ISU from that quote. It's ridiculous.

You take one quote and you make it mean something completely different that what it says.

 

[everyyard]

I am pretty much just ****** that a lot of these DB players seem to be using ISU as their personal glorified JUCO. It is amazing. They come here, get way more exposure and play against better talent to improve their game and then after 2 years bolt for greener pastures.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

Nowhere and I mean nowhere in that quote does it talk about Ham owing anything. It simply says ISU helped to make him what he is today. How can you possibly pull out that he said Ham owed ISU from that quote. It's ridiculous.

You take one quote and you make it mean something completely different that what it says.

Thank you.

 

[CycloneErik]

Thank you.

Real men say thank you with coupons.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Not a betting man, but who do they beat in the Big 12? CU? No NU? No Those are the closest to our talent, I really want to know who you think they will beat?

Of course you aren't. I called you out twice and didn't take either one after you initiated the prediction. I let you set the over/under and even gave you more of an advantage on one but you won't stand behind it. You run your mouth and throw out all of these predictions but you won't tie yourself to them. If you are going to throw out ridiculous things like this at least stand by them.

Also, you said 4 wins is one more than this year. You are ignorant. We had 4 conference wins this year. 4 isn't that many, I would expect even you to be able to count that far. You seem to post a lot on here about things you don't really know, then get called out yet still continue to be uninformed.

 

[Tornado man]

Here's an idea: Quit being a jerk to everyone, arguing over semantics, disparaging anyone or anything having to do with ISU basketball, and get a life.

I know Justin Hamilton, have seen the work he puts in, and have a helluva a lot more insight into how he ticks than you do from your keyboard.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I know Justin Hamilton, have seen the work he puts in, and have a helluva a lot more insight into how he ticks than you do.

Good for you. It still doesn't take away from the fact you are a **** to pretty much everyone on here.

 

[CloneLawman]

I know Justin Hamilton, have seen the work he puts in, and have a helluva a lot more insight into how he ticks than you do from your keyboard.

Good. Then please comment on how Justin backs out on commitments he makes. I am not questioning his work ethic nor his willingness to be a team player on the court. Please just comment on his unwillingness to keep his promises. Is that part of what makes him tick?

Better yet, since you have SO much insight into him, please detail the reasons for his decision and how he arrived at said decision. someone like yourself who possesses such an abundance of insight should share it with us mere mortals who occassionally post on here.

 

[ajk4st8]

its pretty easy. especially in basketball.. i dont want anyone here who isn't totally into playing for ISU. Was Ham getting better YES. Is he replaceable... Absolutely.

I appreciate all he did at ISU, but wish him well elsewhere.

 

[ajk4st8]

I am pretty much just ****** that a lot of these DB players seem to be using ISU as their personal glorified JUCO. It is amazing. They come here, get way more exposure and play against better talent to improve their game and then after 2 years bolt for greener pastures.

Schools also use players ... schools give players conditional scholarships sometimes dont they?

 

[Wesley]

I am more concerned that McD continues to lose players after a couple of years. Wow, thank god we have DG.

 

[ajk4st8]

I am more concerned that McD continues to lose players after a couple of years. Wow, thank god we have DG.

He takes a lot of crap on here... probably too much. He has put everything into playing for ISU. That gets my respect right there. Same with Craig.

 

[jsheep]

Our program is like a flippin' soap opera. We have an entire new team every year. Next year will just be another waste and I'm sure another revolving door of players.

I still cannot fathom how we had 2 players like Brackins and Gilstrap and had the record that we had.

Every program has a few players that transfer here and there. When it becomes a recurring pattern, there's a problem.

Was not a WM fan at all as I felt his players got worse each season under him, but our program was in better shape at that point than it is now.

 

[CloneLawman]

Please explain what was conditional about ISU's commitment to Justin Hamilton. I don't think he was given a conditional scholly.

 

[ajk4st8]

Please explain what was conditional about ISU's commitment to Justin Hamilton. I don't think he was given a conditional scholly.

I wasn't referring to him.

 

[BigBake]

Our program is like a flippin' soap opera. We have an entire new team every year. Next year will just be another waste and I'm sure another revolving door of players.

I still cannot fathom how we had 2 players like Brackins and Gilstrap and had the record that we had.

Every program has a few players that transfer here and there. When it becomes a recurring pattern, there's a problem.

Was not a WM fan at all as I felt his players got worse each season under him, but our program was in better shape at that point than it is now.

This. And I'm a die hard "want it to work for Mac and the program" but I'm at my wit's end. Ham leaving was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

 

[ajk4st8]

This. And I'm a die hard "want it to work for Mac and the program" but I'm at my wit's end. Ham leaving was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

yeah.. its not so much records and stats... its the feeling of having no direction after so many years.

The ONE thing that has kept us from post season... player retention.