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Why are people getting so up tight about this? honestly..he didn't miss any games. People have personal business to take care of sometimes and you have to do that.

Some people are absolutely ridiculous too and they put work ahead of their life. Even when I got hired by my company (one of the top 10 companies in the world so this will set it up), they told us "If you have personal matters to take care of, take care of those first...even if you have to take multiple days off. Your personal life comes first ahead of your work life." They're telling that to consultants too.

We aren't talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions like ISU does, we're talking about billions and even they get it even though they know it could lose them business.

It's Dendy's business and unless he starts missing a lot of games, it should stay his business.
Congrats on all your success. Can you take multiple days off without telling anyone?
 
I go to the mall foodcourt to grab some lunch and hit on high school girls (not necessarily in that order) and look what happens to this thread.

Also, that's interesting about what was brought up on the call in show about fearing to ask the coaches for permission to resolve these matters. I don't want to dig too deep into that, but it is interesting nonetheless.

Did you have the moustache? That would make this statement 10x funnier...
 
Congrats on all your success. Can you take multiple days off without telling anyone?

I guess I didn't hear that part of the Dendy story...


Usually I just have to tell a project manager but nobody else and they can keep it secret. Interesting about that part though. The more you know...
 
I guess I didn't hear that part of the Dendy story...


Usually I just have to tell a project manager but nobody else and they can keep it secret. Interesting about that part though. The more you know...
I get what you're saying, but you're not a recognizable, public figure. There's a big difference.
 
I guess I didn't hear that part of the Dendy story...


Usually I just have to tell a project manager but nobody else and they can keep it secret. Interesting about that part though. The more you know...

McDermott specifically said that Dendy did not notify coaches prior to leaving town.
Are there ANY rules on this team?
 
I get what you're saying, but you're not a recognizable, public figure. There's a big difference.


Yeah, he is out of line not telling anyone (probably a rooted psychological thing), but IMO as long as he doesn't miss games and that many practices then it's none of my business. If the personal problem is something dumb though like "Oh my girlfriend of one year is cheating on me" or something, then that's out of line for a personal problem to warrant flying out.

The point I was trying to make is that I am still on multi-multi million dollar projects and ultimately not performing well and missing work CAN be responsible for other peoples' jobs (very very worst case scenario). Dendy performing well can have a direct impact on sales, public exposure, and ultimately money (and some peoples jobs). I may not be a "public figure" that a college basketball player is, but I am still as responsible for bringing in money and still getting money (Dendy's in form of a scholarship). Then again, what I'm doing and what Dendy is doing is basically complete opposites.

Needless to say, it's a lot easier and cheaper to resource action a college player :)
 
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McDermott specifically said that Dendy did not notify coaches prior to leaving town.
Are there ANY rules on this team?

lol...well watching the games and how many shots the players take without setting up any kind of offense, I would say not many rules.
 
Why are people getting so up tight about this? honestly..he didn't miss any games. People have personal business to take care of sometimes and you have to do that.

Some people are absolutely ridiculous too and they put work ahead of their life. Even when I got hired by my company (one of the top 10 companies in the world so this will set it up), they told us "If you have personal matters to take care of, take care of those first...even if you have to take multiple days off. Your personal life comes first ahead of your work life." They're telling that to consultants too.

We aren't talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions like ISU does, we're talking about billions and even they get it even though they know it could lose them business.

It's Dendy's business and unless he starts missing a lot of games, it should stay his business.
The difference is Dendy is [somewhat] of a public figure, at least to Iowa State Athletics. You are not. You missing work for personal reasons is not news because, honestly, no one cares. People DO care about Dendy potentially missing games. It's only human nature (right or wrong) to want to know WHY.

We're arguing about 69 different points here: what constitutes news, what's news vs. what's gossip, how that information is spread, personal business when you're a public figure, what information do we expect to know as fans of a given team...

I do agree that because Dendy is back and practicing, the story of him leaving for SC is moot. But that doesn't mean it could become a story again some time in the future.

I do think the players owe it to the coaches to let them know if/when they have a personal issue that requires them to leave on short notice. It's only a courtesy. They don't have to share the whole sob story if there is one, but some sort of communication would be beneficial for both player and coach, lest we end up with another Wes Johnson situation.
 
Did you have the moustache? That would make this statement 10x funnier...

Mustache in tow, lucky strikes rolled up into my t-shirt sleeve leaning up against my hot car. Looked a little like this...

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The difference is Dendy is [somewhat] of a public figure, at least to Iowa State Athletics. You are not. You missing work for personal reasons is not news because, honestly, no one cares.

Well, it's because he's more of a public figure. If Dendy was on the swim team, would we really care? Probably not and he's still be a public figure. Would our national exposure and revenue change THAT much if we were talking about the swim team? Probably not..

We care because we think he's potentially very good, can help ISU win more games, thus increasing our national exposure and ranking, thus helping us get better recruits, thus increasing fans' happiness levels, thus increasing ticket sales, thus increasing ISU's revenue.

It pretty much all comes down to money. I'm sure people on the "lesser stage" sports miss all the time due to personal reasons (albeit not flying out without telling anybody) but nobody really talks about it because it doesn't affect revenue too much.

(What I do and what Dendy does is complete opposite. I still have a big influence on money and whether you agree with it or not, a reputation for my company to keep. I still have commitments that can completely screw over a company I'm consulting with and they can lose business as a result too AND their reputation can go way down if we don't deliver on behalf of them. I might not be a public figure (I am only to a certain audience, not to the general public), but there is still influence, reputation, and revenue on both sides of the coin. Completely different though.....point is that it all comes down to money and happiness for the most part).
 
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Well, it's because he's more of a public figure. If Dendy was on the swim team, would we really care? Probably not and he's still be a public figure. Would our national exposure and revenue change THAT much if we were talking about the swim team? Probably not..

Do you think Bill Fennelly would tolerate a player leaving town, missing practice, without permission?
How about Paul Rhoads?
How about Christy Johnson?
 
Well, it's because he's more of a public figure. If Dendy was on the swim team, would we really care? Probably not and he's still be a public figure. Would our national exposure and revenue change THAT much if we were talking about the swim team? Probably not..

We care because we think he's potentially very good, can help ISU win more games, thus increasing our national exposure and ranking, thus helping us get better recruits, thus increasing fans' happiness levels, thus increasing ticket sales, thus increasing ISU's revenue.

It pretty much all comes down to money. I'm sure people on the "lesser stage" sports miss all the time due to personal reasons (albeit not flying out without telling anybody) but nobody really talks about it because it doesn't affect revenue too much.

(What I do and what Dendy does is complete opposite. I still have a big influence on money and whether you agree with it or not, a reputation for my company to keep. I still have commitments that can completely screw over a company I'm consulting with and they can lose business as a result too AND their reputation can go way down if we don't deliver on behalf of them. I might not be a public figure (I am only to a certain audience, not to the general public), but there is still influence, reputation, and revenue on both sides of the coin. Completely different though.....point is that it all comes down to money and happiness for the most part).
Well, money and the fact that the MBB team at Iowa State has a recent history of players bolting for one reason or another. Fans want to be assured this isn't another situation like that.
 
Do you think Bill Fennelly would tolerate a player leaving town, missing practice, without permission?
How about Paul Rhoads?
How about Christy Johnson?

No, that wasn't my point. I could never condone actions such as leaving a situation where you have responsibility without telling anyone and then magically returning a few days later or calling from that place a day later to finally tell a person in charge you had left for a day or two. My point was more, the team, front office of ISU, and coaches would care but we as fans would say "whatever" most likely.

If we had gotten word a member of the women's soccer team had left without telling anyone on personal matters, only to return a few days later to play a game...would there be a thread pushing 10 pages long about it on the internet? There might be a mention, but I highly doubt it.
 
Do we know for a fact he missed practice? Not trying to be a jerk, simply wondering.
No, you are correct - I don't know for a fact that he missed practice - just assume that at the latter end of finals week they were practicing. But that is just an assumption.
 
No, you are correct - I don't know for a fact that he missed practice - just assume that at the latter end of finals week they were practicing. But that is just an assumption.
If he flew out one night and flew back in the next day, he may not have missed anything...
 
Well, money and the fact that the MBB team at Iowa State has a recent history of players bolting for one reason or another. Fans want to be assured this isn't another situation like that.


Yep. Which all comes down to money again....fans' confidence levels drive ticket sales which can earn ISU revenue and push for a profit.

If that happened at Cal Tech, people wouldn't care as much because they aren't in a position to be a potentially absolute "good team." For us, we HAVE to know why because of our confidence levels as a university team.
 
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